--- In [email protected], bbrigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], off_world_beings > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], bbrigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In [email protected], off_world_beings > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Patrick Gillam" > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 08:26:14 -0500 > > > > > > To: Raja Michael Dillbeck > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > From: Farrokh & Ruffina Anklesaria > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > Subject: Re: Your activities > > > > > > > > > > > > You and your cohorts should not bother to call us unless > you > > > have > > > > > > been specifically instructed by Maharishiji to do so. > > > > > > > > > > I wonder what this phrase means, "unless you have been > > > > > specifically instructed by Maharishiji." It suggests a > > continued > > > > > respect and affection for Maharishi despite all the policies > > and > > > > > plans that Farrokh so scornfully dismisses. > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps Farrokh subscribes to the Bob Brigante school of > > thought > > > > > that Maharishi is pure but has surrounded himself with > > inepts.>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So if Maharishi called Farrokh to Holland or called him on the > > > phone > > > > and said , you should charge 2,500 for every instruction and > you > > > > should get recertified, do you think he would accept > Maharishi's > > > > instruction.....as a devotee that is, as he appears very much > to > > > be > > > > devoted. > > > > > > > > OffWorld > > > > > > > > > > **************** > > > > > > The problem is, Farrokh had a successful program going with > those > > > Missouri judges using TM in sentencing at a couple hundred a > pop, > > > and when the judges balked at $2500/pop, Farrokh had a real > > problem: > > > either lose much of the judges interest in TM, or go on his own > > > teaching TM independently. He chose the latter, and there is a > > > possibility that not only is the price different, but other > > > compromises may have been made when Farrokh "adapted" TM into > his > > > program: > > > "The Transcendental Stress Management program is an adaptation > of > > > the Transcendental Meditation program for rehabilitation and > > > criminal justice reform." > > > > > > http://enlightenedsentencing.org/about-us.htm > > > > > > The judge that is supposedly the head of this Transcendental > > Stress > > > Mgmt program is not a TM teacher, so it's unlikely that all the > TM > > > guidelines are being followed. The TMO invited the judges to the > > > conference to try to talk them into abandoning their effort, > most > > > likely, but that's probably not going to work. Farrokh was not > > > invited because the TMO probably saw him as being irretrievably > > off > > > track because he told the judges how to teach imitation TM. > > > > > > > > > > > Yes I know what the problem is, but my question was this: > > > > So if Maharishi called Farrokh to Holland or called him on the > > phone and said , you should charge 2,500 for every instruction and > > you should get recertified, do you think he would accept > Maharishi's > > instruction.....as a devotee that is, as he appears very much to > be > > devoted.? > > > > OffWorld > > > > **************** > > That's unlikely to happen, for a couple reasons, one of which is > that MMY clearly said that he did not care if people taught TM under > some other name: > In the press conference of 14May2003, Maharishi said that he did not > care if TM teachers taught the practice outside of the TM > bureaucracy: "What I have taught, because it has it's eternal > authenticity in the vedic literature and you should know that, how > many? 30 - 40 thousand teachers of TM I have trained and many of > them have gone on their own and they may not call it Maharishi's TM > but they are teaching it in some different name here and there. So > there's a lot of these, artificial things are going on, doesn't > matter, as long as the man is getting something useful to make his > life better, we are satisfied." > > Also, Farrokh has gone completely off the ranch (encouraging judges > to teach TM probably not as taught by MMY), apparently, so the > likelihood that he's going to come around to toe the TMO policy line > is not high -- although, who knows, a personal appeal directly from > MMY might help. But it's not important -- if it was, MMY would do > it. All the current dysfunctionalization of the TMO outside of India > is intentional -- only India counts from here on out, because only > India can support the revival of Vedic civilization.>>
Mmmm. Interesting perspective. If there is a guy who is a MMY devotee but does not want to do what MMY says, what does this mean? If there is a guy who is not a MMY devotee but does not want to do what MMY says, what does this mean? Can one be a devotee and not do the bidding of the object of devotion? Can one be a non-devotee and do the bidding of the non-object of devotion? OffWorld ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
