--- In [email protected], anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Regarding the "no I" concept, if you have an interest to understand 
> it better, there are some very articulate attempts to describe this 
> experience, coming from people who had no predisposition to expect 
> it, based on their own traditions. These have been mentioned before 
> on FFL:
> 
> Collision With the Infinite, by Suzanne Siegal
> The Experience of No-Self, by Bernadette Roberts
> 
****
I have read the book "The Experience of No-Self" by Bernadette
Roberts. I could pretty well relate to her story and I liked the book,
although hers has not been my path. I have not felt a God inside nor
outside at any phase of my life.

My experiential reality is what Bernadette describes as No-Self. No
God can be found inside. The felt sense of life is immediate and
spontaneously flowing. The thing is done that appears in front of me.
There is no such "I" that would calculate how this doing would improve
my career or create a better picture of myself. There is no "I" that
feels superior to others. I am the others is closer to truth. I feel
strongly the energies of others in me and I'm intensely focused on
working with those energies. The work is essential, not whose energies
they are. It doesn't bother me if I'm seen as ordinary and mediocre
and imperfect. I also feel myself to be in many ways like that. How I
differ from others is mainly the lack of being in the need to be seen
as something special as an individual.
What is different from Bernadette's experience is the strong sence of
"I" present. An "I" not as an image of oneself, rather an organizing
"I" that observes and works with many kinds of energies.

It could actually be helpful to hear how people who have these"No I"
states like Peter and Akasha relate their reality to mine as I have
described it above.

Irmeli








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