Lawson, I'm sticking with the point I made earlier. You actually seem to believe that you're coming across as rational while accepting Tony Nader as the "king" of a made-up "kingdom" that does not exist, except in the minds of a bunch of cultists. You've also presented reasons why this made-up "king" should be able to pass control of his made-up "kingdom" to his heirs.
I'm merely making the point that all of this is FUCKIN' NUTS. There is no kingdom. There is no king. All of these this is made up, pure fiction. Only fools or cultists would believe in it. Which are you? ________________________________ From: "lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 4, 2014 5:05 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife In fact, according to what I have heard, Girish Varma attempted to wrest control of the Indian TM organization away from Tony abu Nader, but both sides agreed to let Swami Vasudevananda Saraswati (the Shankaracharya the TM organization recognizes) be the aribrator for the disupute, and after reviewing all the legal documents, SVS sided with Tony abu Nader, so even in India, Good King Tony rules the TM organization, at last officially. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mjackson74@...> wrote : I don't think who controls is that simple - Girish and his cousins the Srivastavas boys have a good deal of control but there are other Marshy family members and hangers on who control a good deal of it, but they give the American contingent a lot of leeway since America has been such a fat cash cow for the Movement. They all give each other some respect since they are all hogs slopping at the same trough. ________________________________ From: "LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 4, 2014 7:27 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife You guys are fond of quoting newspaper articles claiming teh TM organization is worth billions. That's a pretty hefty kingdom, if it really is worth that much, and whoever controls the crown, controls whatever the asserts are wroth. As an aside, anyone ever wonder at how silly people have to be to entertain so many contradictory ways of looking at things? L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <turquoiseb@...> wrote : Lawson, you're a hoot. You really do believe that there could possibly be "succession issues" with regard to a "kingdom" that doesn't exist. How sweet and brainwashed of you. I always wondered for who's benefit the King was for, turns out it's Lawson. Go figure. Arise Sir English! I often wonder how well the TMO would do if it just sold meditation rather than a pre-packaged kingdom with all bases covered from teabags to divination and invincible homes. Maybe they wouldn't alienate absolutely all but the most feverishly needy. Maybe it would be a big success or maybe it would sink without trace in a crowded market place. I don't suppose we'll ever know....... For that matter, it's pretty brainwashed and unrealistic of you to believe that the TMO could *last long enough* to need someone to replace Tony Nader... ________________________________ From: "LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 4, 2014 3:49 AMre Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife Um.... King is generally a hereditary position and in fact, I recall that Maharishi emphasized that when he talked about Tony abu Nader. In fact, for a very long time,. I was wondering how the heck King Tony was going to have kids if he was totally celibate. And it turns out he wasn't. Problem solved. Though, of course, his daughters might not qualify to be "king" in the male-dominated TM organization, and might not want to be ruler of the Global Country of World Peace even if one or the other DID qualify. I rather suspect that Maharishi had some alternate way of selecting King Tony's successor if he only had girls and/or none of his offspring were deemed suitable heirs to the throne. Maharishi, more than anyone else, would have some sense about how unclear succession issues can bring about huge fragmentation in an organization such as the TMO, and given how meticulously he planned everything else, I would be greatly surprised if he hadn't planned for that eventuality as well. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <turquoiseb@...> wrote : Just to follow up, in case there there the possibility of a follow-up implicit in this question, I have never met either Tony Nader nor his wife. Both were long after my time in the TMO. I know nothing about either of them than stuff that's been discussed here or on a Usenet forum called alt.meditation.transcendental or (in the case of Da King) official TM forums and press releases. If you stumbled on my name as a budding critic of the royal couple, I admit that if you searched the Net you might find parodies or criticisms I've written in the past about them. But I really did that because it was such a SETUP, man. I mean, the *literal* king of TM, presented for decades as celibate and the very personification on Earth of bramacharya, turning out to have had a wife and kids for all these years? That's pretty classic, and if I poked fun, I hope you can understand that I really had no choice. The SETUP was just too compelling. :-) That said, I don't really have any strong feelings about the Naders, Mr. and Mrs. For all I know he might be an OK guy to chat with, if I could get a few beers and a joint into him before we started. My take on him is that he'd need that much just to get real. :-) But if I were to ever offered the opportunity to sit down and have a conversation with either of them, it would be Mrs. Nader I'd go for, in a heartbeat. I know *nothing* about her other than that she's French. THAT, plus the fact that she managed to find a way to be the Invisible Wife Of A King make her in my book a *great* person to talk to. I would pay *money* to be able to chat with her about what it was like to be the Invisible Queen -- just the two of us, off the record, just shootin' the shit, just giving her the opportunity to express to *someone* what a long, strange trip it must have been. I'd bet she has some GREAT stories to tell. I'd much rather hear them than ANYTHING her husband could ever say, either on or off the record. Besides, they'd be in French. ________________________________ From: "TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, August 3, 2014 12:40 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife I don't believe I ever said that, no. In fact, I don't believe I've ever heard anyone *else* say that, either. So if you've heard such a rumor, dish. :-) ________________________________ From: "Emmerich Galler espiderman108@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: "TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, August 3, 2014 12:25 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife Have you been the person, who claimed that Tony Nader's wife does not practice TM? Regards
