very excited about it, of course. and those posters were probably were a result of that crazy enthusiasm. but pretty quickly the program settled into a more realistic perspective. And I always enjoyed my practice. felt like I got a lot out of it. had some nice experiences, but nothing I could say was an experience of the actual sutras.
oh, and as far as being balanced. I think you've got the wrong guy in mind. I feel like I'm on a roller coaster much of the time. thrilling, but close to crashing at any time. (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mjackson74@...> wrote : And how did you respond when you first heard of the TM Siddhi program oh mr. common sense I am so balanced bullshitter? From: "steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 11:23 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What Gullible Fools We Were ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mjackson74@...> wrote : As usual you are wrong. The Movement didn't screw up. It did exactly what it intended to do - it advertised its lies and its bullshit programs in such a blatant over the top fashion that a lot of gullible people said "Well, Marshy is enlightened so it must be true and he is so focused on science he couldn't say this if it wasn't true." Yes, Michael, I knew this was coming. This is your fantasy, this infallibility. All you are saying is that you bit down hard on every claim made, without exercising some common sense discrimination. "We will solve the age old problems of mankind in this generation" I don't know too many that took that claim, hook, line and sinker, but it is statements like this, the reality of which didn't materialize on which you base you case. So the lying ass got he wanted - a core of really hard core believers who would form the continuing core of payers - those who funded him and his greedy lazy family. And today it really isn't the hardcore Bevans and Neal Pattersons who enable the Movement and allow it to continue to royally support these lazy bastards who live by scams and con artistry and suck people into what has indeed become a cult. It is the people like you who will tell people "I know the Movement has done some things it shouldn't have done, but TM is solid, I got a lot out of it and blah blah blah." It is too bad, that the world doesn't come around to your way of thinking. It appears to cause you endless anger and frustration. What is really amusing though, (and I chuckle even now, thinking about it), is when you play the ultimate "channel" card and tell people their true reasons for doing things. I don't know where you get this off world information. You've been pretty coy about revealing your channel handle. "Breaker, breaker, you've got MJ here calling upon_____________, the disembodied entity here to help me tell you folks why you do, and don't do certain things" Jeez, talk about something that didn't pan out! You are still living with your head in the sand ignoring behavior you would never tolerate in any friends or business associates and hate in the governments and organizations who act the same way the Movement does. Keep your head down, but don't expect the rest of the world to go along with it. Michael, in case you didn't notice, I'm not the one putting forth some agenda. That's your deal, and judging from the rising pitch of your angst, it doesn't appear to bepanning out too well for you. On the other hand, every day you always reach a crescendo of anger. Usually you hit it a little earlier in the day. No worries. From: "steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 10:11 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What Gullible Fools We Were I never saw them, but evidently they had a life expectancy of about a week, (or maybe less). So, your point is, I guess, that the movement screwed up by producing some literature that really made no sense, and then evidently pulled it. I think everyone gets the point, Michael, except you, that the movement does, and has screwed up. We know that because each and every instance of that is ferreted out by you and trumpeted here. And the movement continues on, as does your campaign to discredit it. And so, really, what else is new. Tomorrow, you will produce some new discovery, and the day after that, as well. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mjackson74@...> wrote : You are telling me you never saw the second poster? Everyone has seen that one and it also lists a charge - it was not an intro lecture, it was a lecture about the siddhis. These were held in 1976-77 and by the way the "source" is the fucking Movement you goofball. Look at the first one "representatives of Maharishi International University" and it was held in LA - call the LA center and ask them about it. Are you trying to imply that someone created these things to discredit the Movement? There are way too many people here on FFL who remember these for you to get by with that. If you want the "source" as to who has put it up on the internet, surely you have sense enough to realize it isn't anyone currently in good standing with the TMO - you think the Movement wants people to remember this shit? Do what I did and do an image search for transcendental meditation supernormal powers or transcendental meditation supernormal abilities - you will get slightly different results doing both. Now that I have wasted time teaching you how to do an image search, here is one more that will perhaps be to your liking since it has no mention of money for the lecture. From: "steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 9:36 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What Gullible Fools We Were Why don't you tell me source of this poster. I was not an active teacher after I left MIU in 1981. But what I am saying, is that this literature does not look familiar to me. It looks out of character, So, again, where did you find it? Is that an unreasonable question? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mjackson74@...> wrote : All right Mr. Skeptical, take a look at the more well known TM Siddhi ad flyer - everyone has seen this one and it says "invisibility" in plain English. From: "steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 9:16 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: What Gullible Fools We Were A little strange. I have never seen a charge for an introductory lecture as it shows here. I wonder if this was someone making their own marketing materials. Nor, do I recall invisibility ever being advertised. Care to share the source of this "find"? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mjackson74@...> wrote : What a bunch of liars - I have never met a single TM'er who could honestly say they had fulfilled all desires - I can't believe any of us fell for this.
