On 9/6/2014 7:51 AM, Michael Jackson [email protected]
[FairfieldLife] wrote:
I think this post should be re-titled "Xeno Crushes Ann"
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That is not the purpose of a public discussion group. It's not a
dick-waving contest. If you can't practice netiquette maybe it's time
for you to excuse yourself and leave if you cannot stay on topic. Thank you.
Well said, all of it. I would love to sit and chew the fat with you
and Sal sometime - I bet I would mostly sit there in silence and listen.
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The Gross-Out Flame
"Otherwise known as the Deliberately Offensive Flame. By definition,
these flames have no redeeming value. Often they involve uncalled for
personal attacks. Sometimes they amount to no more than racist or sexist
drivel..."
http://www.albion.com/netiquette/book/0963702513p79.html
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*From:* "Xenophaneros Anartaxius [email protected] [FairfieldLife]"
<[email protected]>
*To:* "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
*Sent:* Saturday, September 6, 2014 8:31 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reading or Not Reading Posts
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*From:* "[email protected] [FairfieldLife]"
<[email protected]>
*To:* [email protected]
*Sent:* Saturday, September 6, 2014 2:58 AM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Reading or Not Reading Posts
Wow Xeno, for a guy who has seen a few years, transcended a time or
two and who ploddingly, dryly picks apart most subjects you certainly
seem to miss the proverbial boat a lot. Do you ever break out of a
shamble? Does red blood pump around in blue veins? Do you get angry,
excited, passionate about anything? Bawee and MJ do NOT bring to light
anyone's "samskaras" except what might exist as their own. These two
are not catalysts for bringing to light anything but their own hanging
on to past injury and perceived injustices which have resulted in
anger and disappointment disguised as righteous desire to shake people
up. Whatever they are doing simply pinpoints their own hanging on and
resentment and for you to encourage or congratulate them is to
illustrate your own limitations. Check the fluff box now.
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The 'fluff' box is where your messages presently reside. Samskaras are
the main reason people act with passion, indignation. I have them too,
I just do not have as many as I used to and some are more attenuated
than formerly. If you push someone enough, you should be able to
activate some of them and get a response. We humans, as bodies, are
stimulus-response machines, the gunk in the machine determines the
output from a given input. A conditioned response. My seemingly
dispassionate responses are my conditioned responses, your passionate
ones are yours, Barry's and Michael's are theirs. Now to my mind,
Barry seems to have more awareness of his samskaras, his engrams, than
most here even if he does not think of his behaviour in those terms. I
have never felt Barry's so-called anger is real, whereas I have always
felt that Judy's and yours is. Correct me if I am wrong about my
surmise about you. The samskaras we need to worry about are the one's
that cripple our ability function in the world and to form clear
interpretations of what is going on in the world. PTSD is an example
of samskaras that can cripple.
I am not really interested in people as psyches, personalities. I am
interested in experience, and in ideas about experience, and in how
the world works, or seems to work (we may never really know how it
works). The soap opera of personal interaction does not interest me,
though I do enjoy person interactions, but really personal
interactions are not possible when many functioning samskaras are
running their routine because the essence of the person is not there,
just the overly reactive conditioned responses. You know that quote by
Eleanore Roosevelt 'great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss
events, small minds discuss people', and while I do not have a
particularly great mind, I do like ideas over events and people. It's
the proportion that counts, as it is impossible to go through a day
without encountering events or people and what they are like. A
tremendous amount of time is spent on FFL discussing people's
behaviour; it's gossipy and shallow. It even happens with me, I am not
immune.
I enjoy Barry's and Michael's posts because they dredge up conditioned
responses. This happens even if I am not interested or even know what
their intent was in making the post. That is private in them. For
example, I initially on coming to FLL had some of my samskaras
activated by Barry, and I tried to figure him out. That turned out to
be mostly a waste of time, figuring him out. What turned out to be
more valuable was figuring 'me' out, figuring out why I would react a
certain way to what he said. Same with Judy. Now maybe Barry does the
same thing, but that is for him to say. How often do you analyse your
reactions to what life presents? When we can consciously do this we
can undermine our conditioned responses and experience a bit more
freedom. When we are not aware, the world entraps us, conditions us.
It is ironic that organisations, such as the TMO, verbally dedicated
to liberation, freedom, always end up entrapping us by the creation of
systems designed to condition our minds to a herd mentality. Quite a
few here, Barry, Michael, and even you are aware of this. Don't sleep
too much; you are going after the wrong prey, by looking outside for
the source of your discontent.
