Let's pretend I read this. What are the reasons that this statement you made to Barry does not apply to you, or say to me? Exactly how does one experientially and empirically parse the statement 'I am enlightened (or not)' versus, say, 'he is enlightened (or not). What is the criterion or criteria for making such a judgement? What is the ability developed in you that allows you to do this? How do you avoid making a mistake about it? How does this apply to techniques and teachings of other teachers, who also make the claim of enlightenment? How do you make a judgement concerning those teachers and their students, who may use different methods and have a different explanatory context? Maharishi said 'there is nothing new under the sun' and so, what is it about enlightenment that is different from what came before? Did he lie? Did he tell the truth?
________________________________ From: "fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2014 12:16 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good quote from Sam Harris' new book passed along from a former FFL poster >From anyone here who has said that they are enlightened, I haven't seen any >unraveling. The reason being that if anyone achieves spiritual liberation >using the techniques of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, they know the difference >between true spiritual freedom and delusion. I am not sure you do, though. You >are one of the strongest mood makers on here, and for someone "in the game" so >long, you have almost nothing to show for it. PS Let's pretend you didn't read >this. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <turquoiseb@...> wrote : Seems like everybody's reading this book, except the people here on FFL who assume they already know everything and don't need to, that is. :-) This is a great quote that I'll pass along because 1) my friend already did all the typing so I don't have to, and 2) I love the simple and perfect way that Dzogchen deals with the kinds of faux enlightenment we see often on Fairfield Life.
