--- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > For example, in another post akasha complains that > only violent crime statistics were studied
Not a complaint, just an observation. > < and > expresses suspicion that the researchers left out > statistics on nonviolent crime because they didn't > demonstrate any effect. Yes, thats not a high crime on their part. If they found non violent crimes went down dramatically, I am confident the summary of the study would highlight non-violent crimes. Don't you? Really? Thats how analysis under pressure works. Its what happens in the real world. People make their best case. Not a high crime. But one needs to be aware that the researchers here, as in many other places, had incentives to look for answers that met sponsors desires and expecatations. No different from 1000's of corporate analysts. And 100's of non-profit foundation analysts. But maybe you have to have "been there" in various situations and cases to understand this. > With regard to akasha's comment above about a "single > model," the way he states it makes me think he does > not understand how the study was done and why. Ok, if I have misunderstoood, please explain it to me. Though you appear to attribute an agenda to me, I have none. I am trying to understand both the data and the analysis. > I certainly could be wrong. I didn't say it *couldn't* > be the case that a single model could do what the > researchers intended, only that I didn't see *how* > it could. OK. Akasha's explanations are not on a level > that I can comprehend, I do my best, really, I do try to make it understandable. Think about it. For me it would be a happier place if people understood some basics of modeling, statistics and regression. < nor has he made much of an > effort to help me out. Sorry if it has not been apparent. Actually I wrote some posts, detailing how regression works, with you in mind, Regardless, I am happy to help you out in understanding any knowledge I might have picked up along the way. Just ask, or perhaps be receptive to attempts to share knowledge. > But he hasn't seen the study. It used highly > sopisticated statistical methodology, and I don't > think it's even possible to speculate about what > was done on that level of sophistication. Well, its not magic. Based on a survey of available data, constraints on such and all, I can speculate with some degree of reasonablness as to what issues they faced, and how they approached the problems methodologically. I have been there. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
