--- In [email protected], "markmeredith2002" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> 
>  
> > > But he hasn't seen the study.  It used highly
> > > sopisticated statistical methodology, and I don't
> > > think it's even possible to speculate about what
> > > was done on that level of sophistication.
> > 
> > Well, its not magic. Based on a survey of available data, 
constraints
> > on such and all, I can speculate with some degree of 
reasonablness as
> > to what issues they faced, and how they approached the problems
> > methodologically. I have been there.
> 
> ExxonMobil scientists use highly sophisticated statistical 
methodology
> to prove global warming doesn't exist, creationists use it to prove
> evolution is a hoax.  Highly sophisticated statistical methodology 
is
> useless within a bad study design.  
> 
> My real pt - you have to be skeptical of studies which (1) support 
the
> marketing of products made by the organization which is paying the
> scientists to do the studies, and (2) support the particular 
religious
> worldview of the scientists conducting the study.  In the case of 
the
> M-effect studies, you have both at work.
>

Absolutely.






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