akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > > I'm not at all sure he can come up with his own
> > > > method, run all the numbers, get different results,
> > > > and on that basis, without knowing what methodology
> > > > they were using, say there was something wrong with
> > > > their results.
> > > 
> > > I guess, if thats what i were doing, above. Which I am not. Nice
> > > strawman. First I am using the most standard and conventional 
> > > methods for this type of study -- multi-variate regression. I
did not suddenly invent regression for this analysis.

J:
> > I suspect you're well aware that isn't what I meant.

A:
> Ok. What did you mean by "I'm not at all sure he can come up with
his  own method"? 

J:
> And I also suspect you know what I *did* mean.
 
A:
> I assume you agree that the rest of your statement, "I'm not at all
> sure he can ....run all the numbers, get different results,  and on
> that basis, without knowing what methodology they were using, say
> there was something wrong with their results" was misguided, per the
> repsonse below.


J: > Nope, don't agree.


A: 
> -----
> Akasha full prior response:
I guess, if thats what i were doing, above. Which I am not. Nice
strawman. First I am using the most standard and conventional methods
for this type of study -- multi-variate regression. I did not suddenly
invent regression for this analysis. Second, who knows if I will get
the same or a different result than them. Its a work in progress. I
shared some preliminary exploratory results, based on a surprising
strong little initial model. As I get better data, I will undoubtedly
be able to develop better models. Third, I am approaching the analysis
from different angles, more angles perhaps, than they did. Thats a
good thing. For example, looking at personal crimes, using a unified
model for the complete analysis, etc. Fourth, I am not using my
analysis as a basis to critique the oringinal study. I am doing it to
understand the ME and verify or reject it based on the actual numbers.
For now, I would rather debate my own analysis than some analysis done
12 years ago in which the data used is not apparently readily
available, nor the study itself.


===================
Akasha:

OK. aside from non-answers and short statements of disageements, you
you care to share why? You make strong accusations and then waffle
when asked to clarify.

1) What did you mean by "I'm not at all sure he can come up with his 
own method"?  It was not clear to me, thus I asked

2)Do you agree that multi-variate regression is a most standard and
conventional methods for this type of study? Or do  you have no basis
for knowing?

3) Do you realize that I don't know if I will get the same or a
different result than them, that its a work in progress? 


4) Do you understand that I am approaching the analysis from different
angles, more angles perhaps, than they did?


5) Do you understand that I am not using my analysis as a basis to
critique the oringinal study. I am doing it to understand the ME and
verify or reject it based on the actual numbers?

If you do understand any or all of the above, how can you say "I'm not
at all sure he can ....run all the numbers, get different results, 
and on that basis, without knowing what methodology they were using,
say there was something wrong with their results"? It appears to be
contradictory. Again I am curious as to your logic chain here. It
appears flawed. Enlighten me.








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