FYI MK, India culture is a bit different about those things and than
the "Chrischun" influenced US culture. You should visit there
sometime. It would give you even more material for your rants. :-D
On 09/18/2014 09:54 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] wrote:
My friend Bill had a conversation with Francis Bennett, one of Rick's
BATGAP guys - Bennett has some friends who were around Nissy in the
last years of his life and spent a good bit of time with him.
They all told Bennett that Nissagardatta was profane when talking with
his male friends and that after his wife died he visited hookers
regularly. I have never seen any confirmation of that anywhere online
but that's what Bennett told Bill.
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I'm not Curtis, but I'll provide my short answer to Nisargadatta below:
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Curtis, would you be comfortable saying the same words as Nisargadatta
below?
Nisargadatta: You think you are coming and going, passing through
various states and moods.
I see things as they are, momentary events, presenting themselves to
me in rapid succession, deriving their being from me, yet definitely
neither me nor mine.
Among phenomena I am not one, nor subject to any.
"Fine, Nissy Baby...let's put this to the test, shall we? Leave your
comfy home and walk out to a main street in Mumbai and step out in
front of a bus that is traveling towards you at a fairly rapid rate.
Then come back and tell me how you're not subject to any phenomena
just because you think you aren't."
I am independent so simply and totally, that your mind, accustomed to
opposition and denial, cannot grasp it.
I mean literally what I say; I do not need oppose, or deny, because it
is clear to me that I cannot be the opposite or denial of anything.
I am just beyond, in a different dimension altogether.
Do not look for me in identification with, or opposition to something:
I am where desire, and fear are not.
Nisargadatta died of throat cancer in 1981, probably still believing
that he was neither a phenomenon nor subject to any phenomena.
You seem to like the fact that he can "talk the talk" of having no
self. But the person who talked like that clearly had enough of a self
to die when its body did. I guess I'm suggesting that I see no reason
to believe that the stuff he wrote about what he believed about
himself (or his lack of one) is to be paid attention to. It's just talk.
