jim_flanegin wrote: >--- In [email protected], Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>jim_flanegin wrote: >> >> >> >>>--- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>On Nov 10, 2005, at 12:28 PM, Peter wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>Rick, thanks for posting the files. I love the MMY and >>>>>Nandkishore story. It reminds me of the story of one >>>>>time MMY was at MIU in a small meeting and suddenly he >>>>>turned to the woman assigned to take notes and asked >>>>>her to explain how she was taking notes. She described >>>>>to him what she was doing and he angerly said, who >>>>>told you to do it that way? She replied, you did! MMY >>>>>said he had not told her to do anything like that at >>>>>all. She insisted that he had and he kept on saying he >>>>>had not. She was finally on the verge of tears and she >>>>>gave up and said that he hadn't told her to do that >>>>>way. MMY said, very good and told her to continue >>>>>doing it the way he had told her, just as she had >>>>>described. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>This is very interesting, esp. given the recent discussion on >>>>questionable research. What would a researcher, who was a die- >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>hard >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>student, do if they were told by their teacher "this is the way >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>it >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>is", even though it contradicted their findings...? Very >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>interesting. >>> >>> >>>If I saw them as my teacher, I'd give up on the teacher. If I saw >>>them as my Master, I'd adjust my thinking. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>Master is supposed to mean expert on the path or school of thought >> >> >you > > >>are pursuing not someone who has control over you. The latter >> >> >seems to > > >>be a western idea. >> >> >> >I no longer give credence to the idea of a Master as one with >control over me, however if the path a person is following is >comprehensive enough, say a seeker looking for the meaning of life >for example, then the believed master of such a path would de facto >have control over the follower, because the application of the >subject matter, i.e. the meaning of life, would apply to every facet >of the follower's life. > > > Even if the seeker is looking for the meaning of life a good guru guides not controls. He shows the way instead of forcing it. The student has to see from the teaching and of course the student can fail too.
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