From: salyavin808 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
Sounds like it's going to be a fun conference! Keep it coming. It's going to be a fucking ZOO. I simply cannot WAIT to hear how TB FFLers talk about this. :-) You can see the fear in John Hagelin's letter though, he's right to distance themselves from this stuff, if the general public hears about it they'd think the TMO was barking. But then they keep a lot of the rest of it hidden too for that very reason. The website looks most corporate these days, no mention of levitation or world peace creation there. On a scale, I wonder what level of impossibility John Hagelin has TM core beliefs at compared to Marshy being channeled? I haven't seen a "physics of life after death" video yet so maybe he doesn't believe in it. Marshy did so it ought to fit into the unified field chart somewhere. When did it stop making sense for you? It might have *started* making sense when I was on a course in St. Moritz, and I realized that I and all the other guys there with me had paid someone several thousand dollars for the course because some guy wearing a sheet had promised that it would teach us how to FLY. I looked around the room at all the guys bouncing on their butts and shouting and farting and talking in tongues and considering all of this "FLYING" and realized that someone in this picture had been conned. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <rick@...> wrote : This was sent to me by a friend. I’m not “in the loop” on any of this. Just passing it along. Jerry Jarvis sent this to John Hagelin the day before John posted his thing (Sunday), along with a cover note asking John to consider it and then to call Jerry. John responded, and told Jerry he'd consider it. But he never called Jerry to discuss before he sent out his message on Monday to the Certified Govs. Compare the two documents. Jerry's point is to show people the info and let them decide for themselves. >>From: George Hammond >>Sent: Sep 21, 2014 11:25 AM >>To: >>Subject: The Concerns Expressed to You >>Dear Jerry, >> >>In light of the concern some of your friends are kindly expressing on your >>behalf, I'd like to emphasize a few things we've already discussed: >> >>1) The Explanations Maharishi wants me to convey are designed to dispel the >>fears many of his teachers have developed. These are not in any way designed >>to make any organizational change in the TM Movement or its leadership. They >>are also not in any way designed to give instructions to any individual. No >>one is being asked to "listen and follow" or anything of the kind. Each >>individual may hear, or not hear, these Explanations, and may do, or not do, >>in his or her own life whatever he or she thinks is appropriate afterwards. >>Maharishi is not interested in making anyone else's decisions for him. But >>he is very interested in sharing these Explanations because he is convinced >>they will dispel the unnecessary fears his beloved teachers are experiencing. >> >> >>2) One reason Maharishi has taken the unorthodox approach of conversing with >>me like this, which he fully admits he strongly downplayed when he was >>physically alive, is that there is no other way to reach his teachers while >>they are still alive. And he is concerned, if they die afraid, that that >>might spoil their attraction to meditation and to improving their >>consciousness for some time to come, which is a tragedy he wants to avoid. >>That is his main motive for making an exception to his general rule about >>sticking to normal modes of communication. >> >>3) That said, unlike how some people are representing this, Maharishi is not >>being "channeled". I did not speak with his "ghost". I was neither dreaming >>nor having a "vision". I had a normal conversation with Maharishi. I was >>wide awake at the time the original conversation started and I stayed wide >>awake during the entire time. This has been true of all our conversations >>since the original conversation as well. None has occurred during my dreams >>and none can even remotely be characterized as either visionary or >>channeling. It is simply that the mind we knew well as Maharishi is of >>course not dead. And he is still just as recognizably unique a personality >>as he was during his life from 1918-2008. I do not claim that I spent >>anywhere near as much time with Maharishi as probably thousands of others >>did. But I did spend time with him, and I know him well, and I am confident >>no other being could fool me into believing that being was Maharishi. The "feel" of Maharishi's mind is so unique that it would take extremely subtle acting ability on the part of any being to pull off even a half-convincing impersonation. As just one example, Maharishi's unusual sense ofhumor would be very hard to duplicate and his humor has had ample opportunity to be expressed throughout our conversations. >> >> >> >> >> >>4) As you know, several attempts were made to contact the TM Movement's >>leadership starting soon after the original conversation with Maharishi on >>January 2nd. At that time, Maharishi did want those leaders to organize the >>presentation in the Dome on February 2nd. When that proved not feasible, >>another option was proposed for July. But Maharishi's requirement that his >>Explanations be given only once and recorded and not given again, for the >>obvious reason that more than one version would produce endless nitpicking, >>was found to be too high a hurdle for the TM Movement's leadership to approve >>the use of the Dome, for the also obvious reason that whatever would be said >>in the Dome would most likely be construed as authorized. Given the >>competing reasonable positions, Maharishi proposed a solution that retained >>his one-time only requirement without asking his TM Movement's leadership to >>take such a leap without knowing the content. That solution was to have the presentation at a neutral site and the TM Movement's leadership could determine after the fact whether Maharishi's Explanations were of any value or not. That is why no one is expecting the TM Movement's leadership to attend the 30th November presentation, or is claiming that they will. >> >>5) This "one-time only" requirement should also make it clear that since the >>Explanations will then be complete, my task as delivery boy will also be >>complete after November 30th. I have neither been asked by Maharishi to take >>any position in the TM Movement, nor do I have any interest in doing so. And >>nothing has occurred since January 2nd that has changed my mind about that in >>the slightest. >> >>So all that is being asked is that John and the other leaders wait until >>after the event to determine whether the Explanations were very useful or >>ridiculous. And I am confident that they have both the wisdom and the >>forbearance to wait the few more weeks remaining in order to hear the >>Explanations before rendering their judgments. >> >>George
