Bhairitu, I think Maslow was a true visionary and I feel fortunate to have run 
across his ideas when I was younger. Even his idea of self realized person has 
an organic and reachable feel to it.





On Sunday, September 28, 2014 11:41 AM, "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net 
[FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 


  
I'm not sure anyone here would want to be sane.  Sane as defined by the 
psychological community these days is the "norm."  IOW, if you behave like that 
average bumpkin then you are sane.  Do you want to be an "average bumpkin"?

Most of us can recall the days when the psychological community
      jumped on the Maslow bandwagon and defined "sane" as a person who
      is self-actualized.  IOW, one who is enlightened.  Then there was
      a pouring out of magazine and newspaper articles about how
      everyone was crazy because very few by that definition could
      attain enlightenment.  I'm guessing that made the psychological
      community redefine "sane".

On 09/28/2014 03:14 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:

  
>From: salyavin808 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
>
>
>
>I don't know about you but I feel more like Wonko the Sane as the days go by. 
>Just a few of us outside the asylum now, with only the mad scratching from the 
>inmates to distract us from the real world. 
>
>This is really worth revisiting, especially for those who don't know who Wonko 
>the Sane is:
>
> 
>http://hitchhikers.wikia.com/wiki/Wonko_the_Sane
>
> I understand your feelings. My eyes hurt from rolling so much lately, not 
> only here on FFL but on a Rama-related forum that's grown more active lately. 
> If you think FFL is out there, you should hear some of the things *they* 
> believe. :-)
>
>I love the concept of "The Asylum" and
                              "The Outside of the Asylum" as Douglas
                              Adams defines them:  
>
>"The Asylum was set up one day after Watson came across a set of detailed 
>instructions on a set of toothpicks. Watson, distressed and fearing for the 
>world's sanity, built 'The Asylum' to put it in and help it get better. The 
>Asylum is a four-walled house turned inside out. That which one would be 
>inclined to take as the door into the house opens into a lawn with benches and 
>walking paths. This is the area that Watson calls Outside the Asylum. Thus, 
>the inside of the asylum contains the entire world, save for that small area. 
>Within that small 'outside' area, Watson has mounted the instructions for the 
>toothpicks, in order to discourage himself and others from going back into the 
>asylum, i.e. returning to the mad world."
>
>It does seem from time to time as if you
                              and Xeno and Curtis and Bhairitu and
                              myself and a few others are trying to
                              create an "Outside the Asylum" space here
                              in the FFL Madhouse. 
>
>
>
>

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