On 09/28/2014 10:26 AM, salyavin808 wrote:
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <noozguru@...> wrote :
I'm not sure anyone here would want to be sane. Sane as defined by
the psychological community these days is the "norm." IOW, if you
behave like that average bumpkin then you are sane. Do you want to be
an "average bumpkin"?
Well if you put it like that, I guess not ;-)
Most of us can recall the days when the psychological community jumped
on the Maslow bandwagon and defined "sane" as a person who is
self-actualized. IOW, one who is enlightened. Then there was a
pouring out of magazine and newspaper articles about how everyone was
crazy because very few by that definition could attain enlightenment.
I'm guessing that made the psychological community redefine "sane".
I'm not sure what the definition of sane would be. Over here Insanity
is a legal term that means "responsible for one's actions" basically
if you knew what you were doing at the time you did whatever you did
you get to go to jail instead of a secure hospital.
Yes, I buy that "being functional" could be definition of sanity. But
there are plenty of biological androids among us who are functional but
living still living in a dreamworld. I call them "mecha-humans" because
they strive to be more machine like. Actually a robotics expert
commented on this back in the late 1990s.
But that leaves a vast majority as sane. I think psychologists
describe you as psychologically healthy if you are productive, can
realise goals, make long term plans and form healthy relationships (no
jealousy or violence etc) None of which helps me and Wonko....It's all
relative.
Sane but ignorant (or just plain lazy minded).
The problem on FFL is that you have two kinds of crazies: extremist
TB'ers and extremist skeptics who seem to throw the baby out with the
bath water.
On 09/28/2014 03:14 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@...
<mailto:turquoiseb@...> [FairfieldLife] wrote:
*From:* salyavin808 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
I don't know about you but I feel more like Wonko the Sane as the
days go by. Just a few of us outside the asylum now, with only the
mad scratching from the inmates to distract us from the real world.
This is really worth revisiting, especially for those who don't
know who Wonko the Sane is:
http://hitchhikers.wikia.com/wiki/Wonko_the_Sane
I understand your feelings. My eyes hurt from rolling so much
lately, not only here on FFL but on a Rama-related forum that's
grown more active lately. If you think FFL is out there, you
should hear some of the things *they* believe. :-)
I love the concept of "The Asylum" and "The Outside of the Asylum"
as Douglas Adams defines them:
"The Asylum was set up one day after Watson came across a set of
detailed instructions on a set of toothpicks. Watson, distressed
and fearing for the world's sanity, built 'The Asylum' to put it
in and help it get better. The Asylum is a four-walled house
turned inside out. That which one would be inclined to take as the
door into the house opens into a lawn with benches and walking
paths. This is the area that Watson calls Outside the Asylum.
Thus, the inside of the asylum contains the entire world, save for
that small area. Within that small 'outside' area, Watson
has mounted the instructions for the toothpicks, in order to
discourage himself and others from going back into the asylum,
i.e. returning to the mad world."
It does seem from time to time as if you and Xeno and Curtis and
Bhairitu and myself and a few others are trying to create an
"Outside the Asylum" space here in the FFL Madhouse.
