--- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> <snip>
> > Thus, its critical to make the full original dataset available to
> > other researchers to test the hypothesis via "their" approach to 
> > model specification and selection.
> 
> Just to make sure several different things don't
> get conflated here (again):
> 
> 
> The raw data--the crime and other stats--used in *both*
> studies, however, were publicly available.


Well, just to make sure several different things don't
get conflated here (again):


You seem to equate public availabilty of FBI crime stats with all "the
raw data .. were publically available". First, there is a differnece
between publically available and easily accessable. As I have stated
in prior posts, the weekly FBI stats are not available on line prior
to 1995. While they are probably is some library, finding them copying
them, and keyboard entering them into a research data set is time
consuming and restricive -- and not what is meant by "make the full
original dataset available to other researchers".

Second the research data set includes much more than crime stats. It
includes weather data (again hard to find 12-20 years later in a
weekly form) and the socio-economic and LE data used as control
variables. Locating such data is more difficult than obtaining the
crime statistics which are per your words, "publically available".

When a data set from a study is "made available" it is either put on
line, or sent in digital form, on CD for example. At a minimum, a hard
copy of the data is provided -- though this is a bit of a
constsraining option -- a hurdle placed on new researchers wishing to
duplicate or extend the analysis.

As far as computer output from the modeling, its standard to at least
provide a detailed summary of key diognastics and paramters for the
final model specificatation, and for key rejected specifications, and
the reasoning for rejection (e.g, high multi-colineearity or
hetroscadasity.) Full sets of computer output are not required, though
in this age of easy mass archiving -- on-line or CDs, there is no good
reason not to. Regardless, an independent researcher, if they have the
dataset, can rerun the analysis, and obtain all the intermediate steps
and diagnostics they care to analyze.

I hope this clears up this issue so we don't have to keep repeating it.







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