--- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], Rick Archer 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > on 11/11/05 11:44 AM, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > And in good science this discourse goes back and forth
> > > > with re-analysis of data, arguments for and against
> > > > stated conclusions and out of this seeming mess really
> > > > good, scientific advances come about. (On a side note,
> > > > if you follow the topics in scientific journal
> > > > articles  it is amusing how rival "camps" all but call
> > > > each other assholes in their publcations)
> > > > Unfortunately the TMO is not interersted in having its
> > > > ME research looked at because they know it is not
> > > > robust. It's a very faint whisper of pattern in a sea
> > > > of random noise that can only be seen if you look at
> > > > it in a very particular way.
> > > 
> > > And yet Hagelin brags repeatedly that the ME is the most 
verified
> > thing in the history of science. Only one in a gazillion odds 
that 
> it
> > could be chance. P values to 25 decimal places or some such thing.
> > 
> > Which crappy model spcifications and bad out of whack parameters 
in
> > other areas can create. See my adjacent post on this. Thats why 
you
> > need to look at the full range of relevant parameters and makes 
sure
> > they are witnin acceptable bounds.
> 
> Bear in mind that there's nobody on this forum in a
> position to defend the ME studies.  It's easy to make
> folks think you've debunked something when they aren't
> able to see a response to the debunking.
>

Of course, official MUM policy appears to guarantee that we won't 
have anyone in-the-know defending it, either...





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