--- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "dhamiltony2k5" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > >MMY's > > > biggest mistake was, is, and always will be, the Siddhi's program! > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > > > Unless you happen to find the Siddhis program of personal use, of > > course... > > > > Yeah, on my siddhi course w/MMY at the end there was this > clamouring > > for people to receive advanced TM techniques from MMY before they > > went home. He laughed derisively at this and said, "i have just > > given you the key to the universe and you want advanced techniques?" > > > > On that course he gave these great lectures about the patanjali > Yoga > > Sutras and the siddhis. Really great understanding about how you > do > > the siddhis in form. In the sequence of things i am glad he came > > along with this back then. > > You can use the form of Patanjali to all kinds of good end with any > > of the maha vedic mantras or just simple spiritual practice. The > > same kind of patanjalaic description for how you can meditate is > > taught with Karunamayi also. It is not like Patanjali is > tradmarked > > or MMY taught anything new. He definitely packaged it. > > > > As for the long decline, it was very much in his hands as he > > dismantled the teaching organization back in 1977 that had become > so > > effective to that point. He (MMY) made the decision to supplant > the > > whole thing with the chaos of the returning vedic atoms from those > > early TM-siddhi 'governor training' courses (mid & late 70's). It > > was a monumental decision which was very human and all his. I was > > there and watched him do it. It was pretty clearly a whim that was > > a bad administrative choice of his. Yes, he traded the old TMorg > as > > a teaching org. for a series of cash cows of what then became the > > intervening years of the TMorg. From then it really became about > > real estate and profit-centers for him. The great teacher? > > > > Jai Guru Dev, -Doug > > > > > > But look at the numbers. In its heyday, the TMO was teaching perhaps > a million people a year. That figure wasn't going to last, given the > competition from the relaxation response and other meditation > techniques. Even if it had, if you believe the original 1% ME figure, > you would need to teach 60 million people TM who would be STILL > PRACTICING for the TMO to have a permanent, long-term effect. That > would have taken many decades of work to attain --at least 60 to 10o > years if everyone was a TBer, and more like a 2or 3 centuries or so > otherwise. > > Now, with the sqrt of 1% effect, this time-period would be shortened > to a period of a year or two as soon as the money was collected and > the facilities built. > > While you can argue that the decision to go for the sqrt ME effect > with the inherent greed factor of trying to collect 100's of millions > or even billionsof dollars, has destroyed the TMO (I'm not convinced > of that yet), you can't aruge that it would take many decades to > centuries to attain the same theoretical effect by going the way > things were going in the mid-70's. > > To believe that the TMO would survive past MMY's life long enough to > teach 60-300 million people is at least as optimistic as believing > that the TMO may yet attain its current goals, which are more > workable, on their face. > > And that 60-300 million required is the BEST-CASE scenario. With a > 90% attrition rate, it might really be impossible to teach enough > people so that 1% of the world's population would be practicing TM on > a regular basis.
That is nothing but *short-sighted*, if it's worth having it's worth waiting for and doing right. MMY always wanted a shortcut since he was in a *hurry*, did the Catholic Church become what it is today (in numbers) overnight.............NO way! Where's the long term strategy, can't we walk and chew gum at the same time? No, MMY, went for broke, it's all or nothing! Looks like nothing at this point, at least in a macro sense! Billyg. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
