dhyana ("gliding")
   Are they really Gliding.??
The mind is always by its functioning based on the principle of three gunas: Rishi - Davata- Chanddhas
"I am Hagen" (subject - awareness - object) or "You question me" etc.. There is nothing les than three. If you take one aspect, trying to isolate it, the two others
silently come along. Think about it thoroughly !
If you say "I".... and you stop saying more, trying to hide that you wanted to say sometzhing more, then silently at least the question "I" means what ? By this the three gunas have been joining together automatically. Either you can make some statement or you are speech- and meaningless. If you state something, the three are obviously involved. If you do not state sonething, they are still involved, because the avoidance as such implies the same again.
Dharana - Dhyana-Samadhi are synonyms of this first "triangle" of attributes, the same as sat-chit-ananda are synonyms to the second triangle, Brahma-Vishnu-Shiva another one or sattwa-rajas-tamas and so forth.
Dr. Peter Plichta has been finding innumerous of such three-attributes based principles in various science disciplines (see also God's secret formula, Element Books).
Even without practicing the siddhis you are under the influence of the same mind-principles. You can fix a thought (or a an object), but it has to automatically turn into something else, otherwise it would "burn" a hole in your mind, in case it stayed at the same spot. This act of metamorphosis is the gliding-aspect, which ends up in an "ecstasy" or new manifestation.
(Some practical exercise: Draw a cube on a piece of paper and let your mind contemplate on the form with open eyes. Try to fix it as good as you can. After a few seconds it will turn its space-direction from back-ground to fore-ground and after a few seconds back again and so forth.)
If you start with a mantra you will easily  glide (slipping on a banana peel - see Course on SCI !!)
automatically into samadhi (pure consciousness).
          Due to the three-guna principle the result is samadhi.
    What does three gunas has to do with Samadhi.??
Samadhi is the sattwa guna of the mind (pure ground of consciousness). Dhyana is the rajas-aspect (dynamic movement) and
dharana is the tamas-aspect of the mind (fruit or result or manifestation out of the dynamics of the dhyana-force). The rsult has to to dissolve again, and that is being done by the influence of transcendence (Samadhi). All three gunas can never be seen as isolated.
That means, if Samadhi starts to render its influence, it needs its rajas-nature inherent in it in order to give place for a new result (manifestation), which is also part of the sattwic force. This is an infinitely endless and minute process, taking place at every moment and everywhere, because there is no "space" left in between any of these processes (advaita-aspect = non-divisibility). And in thoses moments itself it takes place innumerable times.
          99% of the TM-Teachers all over the world have been leaving the movement. Many of them are still teaching. That is, what Maharishi wanted.
made so many minds become independent, not anymore bound to the master. This is the lesson of freedom Maharishi taught to us
    Why does the TM-org rabidly criticise Deepak Chopra and Sri Sri. Ravishankar.??  TM-governors claim MMY called him "Sugar-Caned poison".??
I do not know, whether Ravishankar od Deppak had been called so. But I guess it would preferredly fit to Ravishankar. When I was living at Gandhinagar/India between October 18, 1997 and September 11, 2001 (!!!) I got in touch with Ravishankars "Art of Living", and I watched a group of Government-employees practicing "Sudarshan Kriya" (I hope I remember the name of this practice correctly). I was shockked, ┬┤because I heard them breathing "like horses" close to be collapsing into a hyperventilative cramp. It sounded so unnatural and disharmonious to me that I had the instant impulse to undertake something.
I wrote a letter to him and got an answer from his secretary: In short the answer was (out of which you can make out my own inquiry), that Ravishankar would be ready to let me initiate "hundreds and thousands of his followers" provided a) I got an authorisation from the TM-Movement to do so and b) that the TM-Movement stopped to behave like a "fanatic muslim organization"- I was positively shocked and tried to get in touch with the TM-movement. No reply. Ravishankar also invited me to come to his place at Andhra Pradesh, but unfortunately I became sick at that time (getting Malaria) and could not attend the planned meeting. Later on I did not succeed in getting further in touch with him, only seeing him on the Indian TV-Screen, where I felt his self-_expression_ really like "sugar-caned". His way of talking with a nonchalant voice, reminded me to a plagiarism of Maharishi's typical self-_expression_. It had a "sweetness" of someone, who obviously intended to ride on a fashionable wave, trying to imitate his former master. (Similarly Nandkeshore always tried to imitate Maharishi, which in a similar way sounded tweely and apocryphal).
         I have to keep the appearance of the movement ridiculous. Those who are able to think from the heart will yet join and be with us."
    What about those who Use their Brains.??
Those who think from the heart defintely use their brains. But I indirectly agree to you: Those who are trying to use their brains
not always think from their hearts.
         But science on TM got obviously suppressed by CIA and other conspiraceous groups.
    How does the CIA suppress Science.??
I am not totally in picture of the genuine story. But once someone close to me reported that the German Government got a serious warning from some American delegate not to support the German TM-Movement anymore. Church and Government in joint effort started a fatal campaign, which created an aversion in all schools against TM. World-wide more and more voices came up to say that the movement is launching pseudo-scientific explanations regarding their religious efforts in order to pull people out of their cultural and religious heritages and make them brain-washed and dependent. I cannot tell you how the CIA has been doing it concretely. But it is for sure that you will hardly find the academic recognition of Robert Keith Wallace's findings at Harvard Medical School in the early Seventies, especially the clear defintion of a fourth state of consciousness, which is unlike sleep, dreaming and waking state in scientific literature. It is also a present scandal, why Governments are still not being obliged to introduce "transcending" as a duty in education. People get forced to get insufficiently educated, therefore by logic the Goverments should also be in the position to get children enforced to regular practice of transcendence.
be in the position
         Viktor Schauberger from Austria similar like Tesslar had shown the way to get out of dependence already in the Thirties (he was one of the fathers of discovering the reality of "free energy").       If we had his technologies as part of our homes
     What is "Free Energy".??!!  Please explain
Before I start to elaborate on it, you better look under http://freeenergynews.com/ . Viktor Schauberger, Wilhelm Reich and Nicolas Tesla have found out that there is an energy, which can be activated by gentle methods, who unfold a mulitifold strength of powers than conventional energies. Especially water seems to be a mystical element as source of this energy. Schauberger as a forest warden watched the phenomenon in the Thirties that trouts could stand still under water-falls like as if not being bound to gravity anymore and he came to trend-setting results, which later on let him be essential part of the first construction of a jet-fighter and even construction of the so-called UFO-propulsion. The allied forces after world-war second toook all his recordings under seal.
There are not only roomers but also serious hints, that research on these propulsive forces had been continued in secrecy.
It might be worth to read some book of Callum Coats, who has been doing 15 years research on Schauberger's theories and practical approaches, which also can be applied as rural technologies etc.
From: "Hagen J. Holtz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 09:28:16 +0100
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Earth turns around the sun not the other way: (How MMY sold a diamond (TM) for a handful of spinach...)
>> > The way I heard the story, it was the Shankaracharya, or the guy
>> MMY was
>> > propping up as the Shankaracharya (I can't begin to keep the
>> details of that
>> > whole mess straight) who suggested to MMY, during a quick trip to
>> India
>> > during the Fiuggi course, that he offer something more to the
>> Westerners. So
>> > Maharishi pulled out a copy of the Yoga Sutras and began
>> experimenting on
>> > half a dozen of the M-group types around him (I got this account
>> from one of
>> > them).
This seems to be mere speculation without argumentative basis. It is the same way typically mystifying circumstances as you are claiming them instead of as "to have been the cause of Maharishi's decision".
The Siddhis are the logic consequence out of TM. Look into the Samyama-principle: Dharana ("fixing"), dhyana ("gliding") and samadhi ("landing"). These three parameters (always) form the natural movement of the mind. The result is "concentrating" (ekagrata parinama). In TM you start with fixing the mantra in a repetitive manner. The emphasis is on dharana. Due to the three-guna principle the result is samadhi. In the siddhis the fixing aspect is being put into the back-ground. Emphasis is on dhyana ("coming back to the simplest form of awareness" -= siddhi-instruction). By this you pass through samadhi and end up in dharana (fixation = manifestation). This is pure applicable science of mind.
The sidhis didn't come out until 1977. The 1% effect came
>> out when
>> > Domash was reigning physicist in 1974. There was a campaign in
> the
>> UK in
>> > which one of the slogans was "you can be one of the 99 if you can
>> get one of
>> > your friends to be the one." Square root of 1% came out soon
> after
>> the
>> > sidhis, and Domash or Hagelin was physicist at that point. It was
>> still
>> > Domash until about 1980. Anyway, I think the theory preceded the
>> research.
Yes you think but you don't know it. And anyhow it would not have made any difference: In Science either theory precedes experience or vice versa. This is nothing unusual. Important is that later on theory and practice or the other way round have to match this or that way.
>> > In other words, the theory of 1% or square root of 1% was bandied
>> about
>> > before any societal testing was done. And Maharishi spent
> countless
>> hours
>> > discussing this and lecturing about it. It's not like it was
>> foisted on him
>> > by cunning physicists. As always, he was calling the shots.
Was there any harm in it ?
> was
>> tickled
>> > pink to get a theory that would absolve him from having to get
> 10%
>> of the
>> > world's population meditating, or even 1%. Anyway, I don't think
>> this
>> > particular point has much to do with the failure of the movement.
For sure he was looking for some more efficient formula. But this was just for principle reasons and has nothing to do with how many people were meant to be practicing TM.
The failure of the movement is by the way its present success. 99% of the TM-Teachers all over the world have been leaving the movement. Many of them are still teaching. That is, what Maharishi wanted. Because it secured that the secret agents in the movement have no access anymore to destroy the movement. Their assumed success of having been destroying now had become a success for Maharishi to have made so many minds become independent, not anymore bound to the master. This is the lesson of freedom Maharishi taught to us. He is always one step ahead.
The ideal of 10,000 or so at one place can grow now from the very grass root level. Once it has been established from there it will never be destroyable anymore. Maharishi 1979 in Seelisberg: "I have to play a global game, which you may not understand, but which will prevent the movement from ultimate destruction. I have to keep the appearance of the movement ridiculous. Those who are able to think from the heart will yet join and be with us."
It is now up to us to organize and realize this ideal step by step.

>> Although
>> > the advent of the sidhis sure scared off a lot of respectable
> folks
>> who were
>> > beginning to take it seriously.
What should these folks have been taking more serious than the siddhis and scientific research on TM ? All this sounds a bit talkative from your end.
In order to reach Kaivalya even the Karma Mimamsa Sutras and the Vedanta Sutras have to be practiced according to the Samyama-Principle. Only under these circumstances the Siddhis could unfold to full extent anyhow.

>> Thanks Rick, for the History lesson, I needed it. At any rate, it
>> really
>> supports my contention that MMY has rested the entire welfare of
> the
>> TMorg's success on these bogus studies!!
There were no bogus studies, there were only bogus interpretations (see those watery wisdoms in the recent mail "Where is the truth ?", where pseudo-yogies are typically misguiding people's minds, ending up in confusion like "everything is truth").
 It's psuedo-science, it
>> hasn't been proven satisfactorily. Remember.."thru the window of
>> science". 
There was nothing wrong in that statement. But science on TM got obviously suppressed by CIA and other conspiraceous groups. Why the fourth state of consciousness has not yet been part of general physiology so far ?
We might as well replace Guru Dev's picture with that of
>> the greatest scientest of our age, the great John Hagelin!!  MMY's
>> biggest mistake was, is, and always will be, the Siddhi's program!
The biggest mistake is that people are obviously not practicing this program regularly, because it is time-consuming, and money does not rain from the sky in order to allow a man to invest so much time  in that daily.
Viktor Schauberger from Austria similar like Tesslar had shown the way to get out of dependence already in the Thirties (he was one of the fathers of discovering the reality of "free energy").
If we had his technologies as part of our homes meanwhile, we all would find more time to excercise the siddhis regularly.
> Unless you happen to find the Siddhis program of personal use, of
> course...
I definitely find it of personal use. Don't critizize the master so much, change and deepen your vision !


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