Which is all moot where Marshy was concerned since he was not enlightened.
________________________________ From: Duveyoung <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 31, 2014 9:41 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's declining brain functioning Let me put here what an advaitan would submit. I'm merely parroting, but I believe I can "hold my own" and represent Advaitan teaching and speak to the concept that "awareness is not material." An "enlightened but aging-badly person" is said to be witnessing the decline of the normal functioning of consciousness, but yet still, an enlightened person is, well, enlightened. Free from any manifest identification. Though enlightenment means that there is ZERO identification with the contents of consciousness (the person) by the witness -- the witness is yet still merely an artifact of consciousness which was/is realized upon enlightenment to have always been part of every experience, and it too dissolves upon death. During life, the witness can be said to be "pure being" or "amness," but awareness is beyond these concepts -- beyond even the perfection of the witness as it reflects awareness. Get it? That's just it: no one does. The person is left behind after enlightenment like an old garment. That person CANNOT INTELLECTUALLY OR EMOTIONALLY GRASP awareness. Awareness does not need a witness or a consciousness to have actuality, but when consciousness arises, awareness will, since it is an "all-time-all-space-and-beyond, ahem, non-real actuality," "be" "represented by" the localized witness "function." Jesus taught that fig trees and stones had consciousness, so I'm guessing they have a subtle witness function too. Dwell on that for awhile -- pretty hefty concept right there in the testimony of Jesus. Ignored of course by most Christians. There is no discernible causal relationship between awareness and consciousness. This was expressed by Krishna when He said "Partha, babes, fagetaboutit, ya can't figure out karma." Unfathomable meant unfathomable, see? Or as I like to say, "Ain't nobody what knows his next thought." Including the enlightened.