---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote :
John and salyavin, thanks, I enjoyed both these articles and thoroughly appreciate the concluding remarks: So, how do we prepare for something we know so little about? We do so "by continuing to do good science, but also by realizing that science is not metaphysically neutral," concluded the conference host Steven Dick. He added: "We prepare by continuing to question our assumptions about the nature of Phys.org - life http://phys.org/tags/life/ http://phys.org/tags/life/ Phys.org - life http://phys.org/tags/life/ Home life News tagged with life sort by: Date 6 hours 12 hours 1 day 3 days all Rank Last day 1 week 1 month all LiveRank Last day 1 week 1 month all... View on phys.org http://phys.org/tags/life/ Preview by Yahoo and intelligence." All I know is, I'll die happy if we discovery intelligent life elsewhere in the universe. If something comes to visit us, even better! What form it will take is a mystery, if they're at our level of knowledge about how the universe works they'll come in person. If they are more advanced they might turn up as robots with their DNA (or fundamentally equivalent) stored somewhere and then they'll convert any matter they find into themselves. It all must be possible because we are made out of bits of the universe so there aint no reason why something with advanced knowledge can't transmute other bits, or even empty space, into whatever they like. But the fact that's possible and we can't see any evidence of the sort of things they could build might mean we are on our own or that nobody ever gets further than us. Not round these parts anyway. Or it it might be something even stranger that turns up and freaks us out. It's all a mystery but given how many hoops we had to jump through on this planet to get how we are, can life like us be common? Read more at: http://phys.org/news/2014-11-alien-life.html#jCp http://phys.org/news/2014-11-alien-life.html#jCp From: salyavin808 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 1:50 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-biological Intelligence ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <jr_esq@...> wrote : A SETI scientist states that this may be the most dominant intelligence in the cosmos. Somehow, it appears that scientists like him are missing something in their assessment about the capabilities of biological entities like human beings. It may be possible to communicate with ETs instantaneously with the human mind through mental telepathy I imagine there's a pretty good reason they don't consider things like that at scientific conferences. The fact that humans can't do telepathy is probably chief among them. This can be justified through the principle of quantum entanglement. Not quite as simple as that, but I'll bet anything it won't be used telepathically, communicating with entanglement would require very sophisticated equipment, you've got to separate and remove fundamental particles and move them about. It's a big job and I'm pretty sure that you need to have both particles in the same place to start with to know whether they are actually entangled or not. Trouble is, no one really knows what is happening during entanglement experiments. Can subatomic particles communicate faster than light - thus destroying our realist concept of space - or is there something we don't know about how they work? Perhaps the state of the particle pairs is determined before they are separated by some deeper principle we don't yet undertsand. If they can communicate faster than light than then how do we know from our perspective which event causes the other? Or is time an emergent phenomena that doesn't apply to the subatomic world? Etc etc. Very interesting subject though whatever it's practical uses end turn out to be. One thing is for sure if we could use it to communicate with aliens we can use it to communicate on Earth. Hopefully we can do that before my laptop wears out and I have to fork out for a new one... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_entanglement http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_entanglement Preparing for alien life http://phys.org/news/2014-11-alien-life.html http://phys.org/news/2014-11-alien-life.html Preparing for alien life http://phys.org/news/2014-11-alien-life.html At a recent event sponsored by NASA and the Library of Congress, a group of scientists and scholars explored how we might prepare for the inevitable discove... View on phys.org http://phys.org/news/2014-11-alien-life.html Preview by Yahoo