thanks, Feste, maybe see you on Thanksgiving... From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 9:23 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: All Beings Enlightened I agree with Share on this. I remember seeing some posts from enlightened_dawn and never for a moment thought the handle referred to a woman named Dawn. I assumed it was a variation on "dawn of the age of enlightenment" that MMY used to say, like "an enlightened dawn." The idea that the poster was pretending to be a woman is ridiculous. You might as well say that TurquoiseBee is pretending to be a turquoise bee.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <anartaxius@...> wrote : That is one interpretation, but I have started to read some of those old posts. I have not found the part where Jim supposedly says he is a woman as search is really only partially functional in Neo, and not much better in the archive, but Barry ragged on him about it back then. And Jim denied that enlightened_dawn11 was him, and also said, as enlightened_dawn11, that he/she was new to the forum, even though Jim seemed to have been on the forum for about a year before that under his own name. So my research is incomplete, and I will be busy for the next few days, so I do not know when I will have time to read more of that. The exchanges between Barry and Jim back then seem pretty much the way they run now. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote : turq, I've always assumed that Fleetwood's dawn name meant something like enlightened sunrise. From: "TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 4:21 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] All Beings Enlightened Isn't it fascinating that after all these years Jim Flanegin STILL can't admit that he posed as a woman here on Fairfield Life for several months, posting as "enlightened_dawn" all that time? One *really* has to wonder 1) what the fuck he was *thinking* doing that, and for so long, and 2) what is wrong with his "supporters" that they manage to ignore it. It's really the biggest "elephant in the room" display of denial and cognitive dissonance in the history of the forum, even bigger than Robin Carlsen trying to continue denying that he'd hit his students, immediately after having admitted it. The only sense that I can make of it is that Jim had a total mental breakdown during that period, and actually believed he *was* a woman. When you think about it, that's no weirder than convincing himself he's enlightened. Whatever. Bottom line is that it's probably a good thing he's living way out in the boonies now, where he can't hurt anyone if he has another similar breakdown. From: "TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> I Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 5:25 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] All Beings Enlightened From: "anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> One of the things mentioned about Buddha's enlightenment is that at that moment he said that 'all beings were simultaneously enlightened with his awakening'. The phrase is translated in different ways but they all basically say the same thing, that with awakening all beings were perceived as enlightened. I presume Jim can clarify what this means. Tobe honest, I'd rather hear him expostulate on what value posing as awoman for several months had in helping him realize his enlightenment. Isthis a technique he would suggest to other people interested inbecoming enlightened? And if so, should they cross-dress only whenposting on the Internet, or should they dress in drag when at work,shopping, going to church, and on other occasions? Ithink that many who are interested in enlightenment would also beinterested in why, once he achieved his enlightenment by pretending tobe a woman for so long, he's never admitted to having done it. One wouldthink that an enlightened being who has come up with such an innovativesadhana as "Cross-Dressing For Enlightenment" would want to talk it upto all who would listen. Whatserious seeker would *not* want to know, for example, how Jimbo managedto conceal his occasional dhoti-tents while dressed as a woman. I'msure they'd also be fascinated to hear how he made his decisions aboutwhich public restroom to use, how to dress when swimming in public, etc. Itjust doesn't feel right that a person who owes his enlightenment tosuch a revolutionary technique as pretending to be a member of theopposite sex "clams up" and refuses to talk about it every time thesubject comes up. It's almost as if by doing this he's saying,"Hey...cross-dressing worked for *me* and was one of the key techniquesthat allowed me to become so much better and more evolved than all ofyou. But if you think I'm going to share the secrets of my patented DragQueen Yoga™ withyou for free, fuggedaboudit. 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