I am making a copy of this post for my food/recipe folder - thanks Alex -I never would have thought to do the lower temp for 48 hours. I am gonna try it.
From: "j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 3, 2014 2:38 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 84% of Vegetarians and Vegans Return to Meat. I only lasted two years on FF's Indian style lacto-vegetarian diet before cravings for poultry kicked in. When everyone here was glued to the Internet on Sunday, listening to the scintillating wisdom of George Hammond, I was up in Iowa City at New-Pi CoOp, stocking up on grass-fed beef, lamb, and buffalo. The next day, I braised some lamb shanks in Sutliff hard cider. This morning, I had some brisket that I cooked sous vide at 133 degrees for 48 hours; what I love about doing it that way is that it's as tender as steak, yet still medium rare. I can then thaw out a frozen chunk of that brisket and do a quick, intense sear on the infrared gas grill, giving that great grilled steak flavor to a tough cut that is otherwise not suitable for grilling. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <noozg...@sbcglobal.net> wrote : Animal activists should emphasize reduction, not elimination, of eating meat. http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/animals-and-us/201412/84-vegetarians-and-vegans-return-meat-why? I recall a lot of people Seattle TMers back in the late 1970 who ditched vegetarian diets and returned to eating meat and felt better. 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