From: "Michael Jackson [email protected] [FairfieldLife]"
<[email protected]>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2014 11:21 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Love and God by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
Exactly. At its heart, the Gita is the story of Doing What You're Told By
Your Superiors, no matter what your own sense of discrimination, honor, and
right and wrong tell you.
Ha ha! I never thought of it that way, but you are right.
I'd love to hear those who diss the Koran while praising the Gita explain to me
how the latter is any less of a call for Jihad (holy war) than the former.
In both books you've got the spiritual figure (Muhammed in the former, Krishna
in the latter) telling the faithful that it's their DUTY to go out and kill
thousands of people, *just because he says so*. Not only is this the way that
they achieve dharma (holy action, right action), it's the way that they attain
liberation in the afterlife. The only real difference I can see is that
Muhammed promises the dweebs who do what he tells them to do a bunch of virgins
in the afterlife and Krishna promises them moksha. And historically, followers
of both books have used them to justify their religious wars.
My suggestion is that Maharishi (and most commentators on the B-G) have never
seen this aspect of it because they grew up conditioned to do whatever a
supposedly religious figure told them to do. Devotion to the spiritual figure
is seen as a given, something they can't conceive of as being questionable or
having negative consequences. Having accepted this as not only normal but "the
highest dharma," they can't take that critical step back and see that what the
religious figure is telling them to do is go out and kill as many of their
fellow human beings (in the Gita's case, their own relatives) as possible, just
because he says so.
In a very real sense, Krishna in the Gita is the counterpart of Buck at FFL.
"We should send drones to kill these people I have designated as heretics. And
we should do this because I say so. So there."
From: "TurquoiseBee [email protected] [FairfieldLife]"
<[email protected]>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2014 4:41 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Love and God by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
Ooops. Damned computer sent it before I finished my last comment...
From: "TurquoiseBee [email protected] [FairfieldLife]"
<[email protected]>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2014 10:23 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Love and God by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
From: salyavin808 <[email protected]>
---In [email protected], <s3raphita@...> wrote :
Anyone got anything positive to say about this book? I did read it but found it
rather dreary. It fails as poetry and it fails as mystical literature. Am I
missing something?
I remember liking it when I heard Marshy's recital on a rounding course. But I
was loved up at the time and the prevailing emotional mood might have coloured
my opinion.
I didn't get anything out of this video, it makes my teeth ache.
Will there be any heavy metal in the Age of Enlightenment? What sort of Heaven
on Earth would it be without my Judas Priest and Motorhead albums?
I'm pretty sure that Judas Priest and Motorhead will have been taken out by
Buck-authorized drone strikes, and will have been replaced on the Top Ten with
the recorded mooing of cows and Ghandarva Veda music.
I have discussed this with TM teachers and opinion divides between: By the time
we get there we will be so evolved and refined we won't want to hear it any
more.
And the much more preferable: Of course, all expression of music are
expressions of the Ved and will have their place. But the guy who said that was
a jazz musician and hated the AofE music as much as I do.
Because cows figure so prominently in the Vedas, I'm pretty sure that in the
AofE the very term will be changed to "moo-sic."
The fact that MMY's other books (which do have something to recommend them)
Science of Being and Art of Living and On the Bhagavad-Gita were mainly penned
by his ghost writers is perhaps ominous. But Love and God seems to have been
composed by His Holiness himself.
TBG felt to me like he was trying to cram his theories into a story where they
don't belong. If you read the verses on their own you get a different idea of
what the story is all about. And the technique for gaining enlightenment it
describes doesn't remind me of TM at all!
Exactly. At its heart, the Gita is the story of Doing What You're Told By Your
Superiors, no matter what your own sense of discrimination, honor, and right
and wrong tell you.
SoB,AoL is just scary fundamentalism and probably dangerous with things like
its dismissal of all psychiatric help in favour of TM.
Back before MIU Press moved away from L.A., they were actually discussing
"pulling it back" and editing out all the parts that were proving legally
challenging for them.
When I got rid of my TM books down at Oxfam I left it at home in case some one
read it and believed it. I think the TMO would be better off rewriting it based
on the actual experiences of meditators rather than the hyperbolic madness of
Maharshi's vision of the intended goal.
You're not suggesting those two things are different, are you?
Here, Rick Stanley adds some genuine feeling to Maharishi's
words.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7tEPXhfDnQ
Blimey, TM videos are weird, what are all those people sitting in the
background supposed to represent?
I'm pretty sure that they are supposed to represent Buck's ideas of what women
should be in the Age of Enlightenment -- dressed in saris, subservient, and
lost in mindless adoration for Maharishi.
The men aren't shown in this video because they're in their own classes,
learning how to pilot the drones used to kill anyone who doesn't obey the Laws
Of Nature.
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