--- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > [email protected], "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis" > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Judy Stein writes: snipped > > > > > > > Or to put it another way: It's not that I have > > > > > > > expectations of what enlightenment is like; it's > > > > > > > that I expect it *not* to be like ignorance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tom T comment: > > > > > > > Why do you want to have any expectation about how it is > > > > > > > supposed to be. How do you know for sure how it is > > > > > > > supposed to be? > > > > > > > > > > > > Tom, please read what I wrote again. I said I *didn't* > > > > > > have expectations of how it is supposed to be. > > > > > > > > > > > > I *do* have an expectation of how it is *not* supposed > > > > > > to be--i.e., like ignorance. > > > > > > > > > > Still an expectation... > > > > > > > > Wow. What I *said* was that I didn't have any > > > > expectations of WHAT ENLIGHTENMENT IS LIKE. > > > > > > > > I never said I didn't have any expectations. > > > > > > I may not know what enlightenment is like, but I know what it > > > ain't like? > > > > > > Still an expectation... > > > > I don't know how to say this any differently, so > > I'll just say it again: > > > > I never said I didn't have any expectations. > > > > What I *said* was that I didn't have any > > expectations of WHAT ENLIGHTENMENT IS LIKE. > > But you have/had expectations of what it is NOT like...
Yes, Lawson. That's what I said to start with and what I've been saying all along. The folks who try to convince us we're already enlightened are fond of suggesting that we have some elaborate, exalted, flashy intellectual notions of what enlightenment is like. I'm simply saying that isn't the case with me. I have no idea what enlightenment is like; I only know it isn't what *ignorance* is like. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
