Thanks.  I'm asking for a female friend who had 
interests in those directions, but who was dismayed
at finding out that she wasn't eligible.  I'll pass
your information along to her.

--- In [email protected], "Irmeli Mattsson" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> >
> > No comments on what you wrote, Irmeli, except to say
> > that I enjoyed reading them.  But I do have a question.
> > In what organization or group did you learn freemasonry?
> > I was under the impression that it was closed to women.
> > 
> > Unc
> 
> Under the umbrella of freemasonry there are many organizations. The
> biggest of them like Grand Orient are for males only. There are 
also
> organizations that accept both men and women. I belong to that 
kind of
> organization. It was founded in Paris in 1893 and its name is Le 
Droit
> Humain. It is active in 70 countries.
> There are also organizations where only women are accepted.
> 
> Earlier the big male organizations didn't recognize organizations,
> where women where members. Now also that has started to change and 
we
> have had visitors in our lodges from the big male organizations.
> I once discussed with a high ranking visitor form the Grand Orient 
and
> he also confessed to me that he considers the work in our lodges 
to be
> clearly more advanced than in theirs. In our organization we think 
it
> is because we have both men and women as members.
> I was initiated to freemasonry in 1982 and have also been in the
> position of the Master in my lodge.
> 
> Here is the address of Le Droit Humain: http://www.droit-
humain.org/
> 
> The name of my lodge is Lux Aboensis. Its home page is at:
> http://members.tiscali.fi/luxaboensis/
> 
> By clicking at certain points you can proceed in it.
> 
> Irmeli
> > 
> > --- In [email protected], "Irmeli Mattsson" 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > It is the most unique achievement we can have as human 
beings. 
> > > > Infinitely complex and arduous to accomplish, yet absolutely 
> > > > irreproducible by anyone else. Uniquely personal to each of 
us 
> > is 
> > > > our journey to liberation, our journey to our Selves. No one 
> > else 
> > > > can follow our path.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > I liked the whole post, but comment only on the passage above.
> > > 
> > > This is probably why I have found my spiritual home at co-
> > freemasonry.
> > > There we have no dogmas to follow, just some general ethical
> > > principles like freedom, equality, brotherhood. Freemasonry 
> > recognizes
> > > and appreciates hierarchy and uses it as a tool of education, 
but 
> > its
> > > structure is not authoritarian. Critical thinking is 
appreciated at
> > > every level. We are encouraged to find our own path to truth. 
When 
> > you
> > > progress further you  actually see it to be the only way.
> > >  
> > > Freemasonry provides a close and long lasting community for 
> > spiritual
> > > seekers. The closeness of brotherhood is accomplished through 
> > rituals
> > > and symbols as methods of shared communication. We don't need 
to 
> > share
> > > the same worldview to feel brotherhood. The rituals create the 
> > close
> > > sharing people often yearn for.
> > > 
> > > The founding thesis in our lodge was appreciation of 
differences of
> > > thought between humans. I have seen many times what kind of 
> > richness
> > > it is, when people with different spiritual backgrounds and 
> > conceptual
> > > frameworks share their thoughts on certain issues like 
`loyalty'.
> > > 
> > > Compared to freemasonry the eastern traditions of 
unquestioningly
> > > surrendering to and following a guru feel quite immature as a
> > > methodology to enhance people's spiritual growth.
> > > 
> > > In freemasonry the benefits of close sharing can be 
accomplished
> > > without the pitfalls and very apparent weaknesses of 
authoritarian
> > > guru systems.
> > > 
> > > Freemasonry as a form and structure of spiritual school is 
very 
> > old,
> > > probably thousands of years. Because its methods of education 
have
> > > been far ahead the societies inside which the lodges have 
existed, 
> > the
> > > system has had to develop powerful methods to hide and protect 
its
> > > secrets. There is also prevalent the idea that you are 
initiated to
> > > deeper aspects only, when you have reached certain maturity. 
And 
> > many
> > > people evaluate the maturity of the candidate. It is not at 
the 
> > mercy
> > > of the possibly self-serving interests of a guru.
> > > 
> > > Irmeli
> > >
> >
>






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