There is a question about karma when applied to groups. If Europe suddenly decided to roundup all Americans would it be your karma or because you're an American? Or would it be because you're in the wrong place at the wrong time? The question arises with astrologers when an airline crashes killing everyone on board. It is quite doubtful that the horoscopes of every passenger would show such a death.

Then we get into the subtle shades of karma. There is karma that is quickly returned and some that is returned over decades or even lifetimes. There are of course Sanskrit names for these kinds of karma. Except for the quick blowback, it's hard to prove or disprove.

On 02/12/2015 09:52 PM, TurquoiseBee [email protected] [FairfieldLife] wrote:
*/There are, however, far more interesting ways to interpret the workings of karma. For example, my favorite -- partly because it does not require any kind of arbiter or "enforcer" to run it, just an automatic mechanism -- is that the effects of karma are not physical but mental.
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*/That is, karma is not the simplistic stuff that many people believe in (kill someone and you'll be killed), but actually far more simple (and thus effective) than that. Kill someone and *your state of attention drops to a lower and duller level*. Or, alternatively, do something nice for someone else and your state of attention rises to a higher and more intelligent/creative level.
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*/Those whose past actions have resulted in a lower, duller mindstate would find themselves repeating the same types of actions that created that lower, duller mindstate. Those whose past actions have resulted in a higher, clearer mindstate would be drawn more to actions that would perpetuate and encourage their higher, clearer mindstate. And at any point one can *change* one's proclivities by simply changing one's actions, so there is no such thing as permanent karma or karma one cannot escape. /*

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This is pretty much a standard way karma is interpreted.

---In [email protected], <s3raphita@...> wrote :



She's barking mad of course. But isn't what she is saying more or less what belief in karma actually entails?

---In [email protected], <noozguru@...> wrote :

*Outrage as Shirley MacLaine asks: Were Holocaust victims paying for sins in past lives?**
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2951513/Outcry-Shirley-MacLaine-asks-Holocaust-victims-paying-sins-past-lives-Comments-attacked-offensive-wrong-Jewish-campaigners.html





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