So, you're thinking that the Jews were murdered in the holocaust because of what they had done in the past and that Dawkins is in the condition he is in because of what he thought and did in the past. So much for our resident science-writer who previously denied determinism. Talk about mixed up!
"What you have done causes things to happen. Your situation in life now has been caused, is predicated upon, your previous actions. That is karma." - Rama Quotations on Karma, Reincarnation, Buddhism, Enlightenment, Nirvana, Noble Truths, Eightfold Path, Tantra and Mahayana by Zen Master Rama, Dr. Frederick Lenz. http://www.ramaquotes.com/html/karma.html http://www.ramaquotes.com/html/karma.html Quotations on Karma, Reincarnation, Buddhism, E... http://www.ramaquotes.com/html/karma.html www.ramaquotes.com Karma For every action there is a reaction. Karma can be examined within the structure of an hour, a year, a lifetime, a thousand lifetimes. ... View on www.ramaquotes.com http://www.ramaquotes.com/html/karma.html Preview by Yahoo ---In [email protected], <turquoiseb@...> wrote : Thanks, Share. I don't know whether it will make you feel better about this riff on karma or worse, but it isn't mine. I picked it up from the Rama guy. It was the most common sense and least Woo explanation of karma I'd ever heard, so I stuck with it. From: "Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife]" <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 1:56 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Shirley MacLaine on the Holocaust thanks,turq, one of the best ie clearest explanations of karma I've read. From: "TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife]" <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 11:52 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Shirley MacLaine on the Holocaust There are, however, far more interesting ways to interpret the workings of karma. For example, my favorite -- partly because it does not require any kind of arbiter or "enforcer" to run it, just an automatic mechanism -- is that the effects of karma are not physical but mental. That is, karma is not the simplistic stuff that many people believe in (kill someone and you'll be killed), but actually far more simple (and thus effective) than that. Kill someone and *your state of attention drops to a lower and duller level*. Or, alternatively, do something nice for someone else and your state of attention rises to a higher and more intelligent/creative level. That's the only mechanism that would have to be in place for karma to work. Those whose past actions have resulted in a lower, duller mindstate would find themselves repeating the same types of actions that created that lower, duller mindstate. Those whose past actions have resulted in a higher, clearer mindstate would be drawn more to actions that would perpetuate and encourage their higher, clearer mindstate. And at any point one can *change* one's proclivities by simply changing one's actions, so there is no such thing as permanent karma or karma one cannot escape. From: "anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife]" <[email protected]> This is pretty much a standard way karma is interpreted. ---In [email protected], <s3raphita@...> wrote : She's barking mad of course. But isn't what she is saying more or less what belief in karma actually entails? ---In [email protected], <noozguru@...> wrote : Outrage as Shirley MacLaine asks: Were Holocaust victims paying for sins in past lives? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2951513/Outcry-Shirley-MacLaine-asks-Holocaust-victims-paying-sins-past-lives-Comments-attacked-offensive-wrong-Jewish-campaigners.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2951513/Outcry-Shirley-MacLaine-asks-Holocaust-victims-paying-sins-past-lives-Comments-attacked-offensive-wrong-Jewish-campaigners.html
