So -- yet again -- the reaction an admitted True Believer has to someone describing something about Maharishi that he doesn't like is "She's LYING."
Lawson couches it in weasel language ("My chosen expert says it couldn't have been true so it couldn't have been true"), but the message is still "She's LYING." Shoot the messenger. Tell us, Lawson...what is the difference between what you just did and what Scientologists are doing to the people who say things in "Going Clear" that they don't like hearing said? BTW, the answer to your cult apology is that people DID know what was going on, but just like the Scientologists in the documentary, they LIED about it because they were expected to. From: "lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2015 4:49 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Travolta defends Scientology... "...as I snuck back to my room." As Anthony Campbell, author of Seven States of Consciousenss, points out, he doesn't see how MMY could have carried on any kind of sexual affair during the time-in-question without many people being in on the "secret," including himself. And Anthony Campbell doesn't practice TM any more and hasn't in decades, from what he says, so he's speaking as a relatively disinterested observer who simply happened to be in the physical location where the alleged affair took place and was one of the myriad people who was working with Maharishi almost around the clock in groups of many, during that period. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <s3raphita@...> wrote : The first time for Maharishi and me as a man and woman is still a very private moment . . .He struck me as not being a very experienced lover . . . he just hugged me and kissed me with great enthusiasm and I felt his desire. The first time we both kept our clothes on and engaged in a lot of petting of the type teenagers do in high school. I remember wondering how far this was going to go. In the wee hours of the morning we finally joined as man and woman, and I felt both shocked and happy as I snuck back to my room. I felt so loved. Robes of Silk, Feet of Clay pp 79-80 It's not Fifty Shades of Grey but the sense is clear. There are other, similar passages in the book. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <richard@...> wrote : Note to readers: in this silk robe there are NO descriptions of any sex acts between the author and the Maharishi - it's all about feet positioning and wearing silk robes and saris. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <turquoiseb@...> wrote : "How many TB TMers have actually read 'Robes Of Silk, Feet Of Clay?' Show of hands. See? Almost no one." So,I sent a check for $18. and all I got was a paperback of 221 pagewith a few lousy, grainy photos of the author with MMY, Jemima Pittman and Jerry Jarvis. Apparently the author was supposed to be the head clerk of the TMO. The funniest part of the book iswhen the author wore a mini skirt one day and walked up to MMY andJerry, who were sitting on the ground, and she insisted on taking theirphoto. So, the next day MMY bought her a silk robe to wear. LoL! There's no tantra in this book - it's all just posing. :-), but it's really true. People who are True Believers always *know* subconsciously that they ARE True Believers, and avoid looking at anything that they intuitively know will shatter the illusions they believe in and force them to admit that they were w...w...w...wrong. Plus, don't forget that several TMers over the years have reported that the "official" policy about Fairfield Life they told by TMO representatives is that they shouldn't be looking at something like that because it's "negative" and would lower their state of consciousness. That's what a Scientologist would be told about reading or watching anything critical of the Co$. Now in this case, given the number of times Travolta has been accused of groping guys he hired to give him a massage, I think we can assume that he is in on the whole coverup, and is a *wlling* blackmail victim because the Church coverup enables him to stay in the closet. *His* fame and livelihood depend on the Co$ keeping his secrets, too. So effectively by saying he's never seen the documentary, he avoids ever having to lie on the record about its claims. This is essentially the same thing that the Co$ is doing on a larger scale -- they have scrupulously avoided dealing with ANY of the claims made in the documentary, focusing all their efforts on demonizing the people who made those claims. That is not just Scientology policy -- right out of their dogma, as written by LRon -- it's even legally sound because by not lying about the claims, they don't run the risk of being found guilty of perjury in addition to being found guilty of the crimes in the claims themselves. This is all Cult 101, guys. Do your homework... From: salyavin808 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 2015 11:45 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Travolta defends Scientology... But he hasn't seen "Going Clear"... John Travolta breaks silence on Scientology doc Going Clear | | | | | | John Travolta breaks silence on Scientology doc Going Cl... Travolta spoke out about the Scientology-bashing HBO documentary on Monday as he promoted his upcoming film The Forger. | | | View on www.dailymail.co.uk | Preview by Yahoo | | | :-), but it's really true. People who are True Believers always *know* subconsciously that they ARE True Believers, and avoid looking at anything that they intuitively know will shatter the illusions they believe in and force them to admit that they were w...w...w...wrong. Plus, don't forget that several TMers over the years have reported that the "official" policy about Fairfield Life they told by TMO representatives is that they shouldn't be looking at something like that because it's "negative" and would lower their state of consciousness. That's what a Scientologist would be told about reading or watching anything critical of the Co$. Now in this case, given the number of times Travolta has been accused of groping guys he hired to give him a massage, I think we can assume that he is in on the whole coverup, and is a *wlling* blackmail victim because the Church coverup enables him to stay in the closet. *His* fame and livelihood depend on the Co$ keeping his secrets, too. So effectively by saying he's never seen the documentary, he avoids ever having to lie on the record about its claims. This is essentially the same thing that the Co$ is doing on a larger scale -- they have scrupulously avoided dealing with ANY of the claims made in the documentary, focusing all their efforts on demonizing the people who made those claims. That is not just Scientology policy -- right out of their dogma, as written by LRon -- it's even legally sound because by not lying about the claims, they don't run the risk of being found guilty of perjury in addition to being found guilty of the crimes in the claims themselves. This is all Cult 101, guys. Do your homework... From: salyavin808 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 2015 11:45 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Travolta defends Scientology... But he hasn't seen "Going Clear"... John Travolta breaks silence on Scientology doc Going Clear | | | | | | John Travolta breaks silence on Scientology doc Going Cl... 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