Note from disciple of G: I am posting this for clarification purposes.
Since many people are leaving their organizations, or Gurus and
then keeping 2 gurus or swithing to Bhagavan kalki, maybe the
comments from Swami G about this long interview can give
these people something to think about. It may be a bit confusing but the interview is between * and Bhagwan I think, or it could be bagwan answering following with Swami G comment (G).
G: will comment as am able....
* Bhagavan, how do you give enlightenment? How is it
possible to give enlightenment?
B: Ah yes. Basically it is through the process of what is called
'deeksha', an electrical energy which transfers through some
kind of a hole in the mind of man.
G: through some kind of *hole* ??? where is he getting this
from ? Diksha is giving Shaktipat that in turn starts Shakti
moving up through the layers of consciousness ......
B: We believe that the mind of man is like a wall, which
divides man from God. The deeksha is an electrical energy that
makes a hole in this wall, which we call the mind. Once that
happens, then God and man can come to relate with each other.
G: if one is relating With God then it is duality and still seeking
...... once Diksha is given and mantras are imparted then
instruction bears fruit and the path is begun upwards ......
B: The way they relate has to do with his background, his
conditioning, his aspirations, his education, so many factors.
But it is God who gives enlightenment, whether you call it God or
cosmic consciousness or nature, call it what you want. So that
takes over and enlightenment is delivered through God. He is
the one who delivers.
G: God is not a He or an object that gives something ....
enlightenment is not a badge man attains ...... it is our Original
Seed Being ..... Grace appears as one surrenders and
releases the conditioned mind which keeps the natural
state of Realization at bey .......
B: Our job is to give the deeksha and make a hole in the mind,
and then God does the rest. It's a very complex process that
only God can do.
G: it is our Natural state ..... as what is unnatural is released
then that which is the True replaces it ....... mind and mans
attachments are what is Complex ...... Realization on the other
hand is most natural and simplistic ...... Shakti knows the way
but ego needs to get out of the way ......
B: So when you give deeksha you speak of this deeksha as a
neurobiological process that affects the brain?
G: Consciousness is Not the brain ..... but the brain reacts as
awareness becomes steady ..... the brain reacts depending on
the level of consciousness and attention or samadhi level .....
it is possible to change the brain waves at will this is possible to
see with an eeg and bio-feedback test ...... first one enters a
specific awareness and as that takes place the brain waves
follow ..... i participated in such a test .....
B: Yes, when we give deeksha it is like the passing on of an
electrical energy that affects the brain, the spinal cord, and what
we call the ductless glands or the 'chakras'.
G: chakras are energy plexus ....... have never heard anyone
term them ductless glands ..... the body reacts as the energy
starts to open and expand the awareness to various levels .....
* So most of the work is being done on the frontal lobes and
the parietal lobes of the brain. There is an activation of the
frontal lobes, and a deactivation of the parietal lobes, plus some
energies are sent into the ductless glands to reactivate these
chakras. So all this in turn produces a hole in the mind, and a
link is established between God and man. Thereafter what
happens is God's work. Up to then, of course, we can do certain
things.
G: there is nothing to substantiate this ( produces a hole in the
brain indeed - what nonsense) ..... for the studies of mind and
meditation read Zen and the Brain .... it has the most concrete
studies that have been done in this area ......
* : Right. So when you speak about losing the 'self', that's
what happens when you make this hole in the wall?
B: When you make the hole in the wall, then God can take over,
and then he works on the senses, liberating the senses from
the mind, from the clutches of the mind. When that happens you
lose your 'self'. That part of the work happens through God
himself. As he is the creator, He works like a computer to
rearrange the brain, and He takes over.
G: when Realization takes place the conditioned mind
essentially implodes ..... it is like having a computer program
deleted ..... the brain isn't re-arranged - nor the senses .....
the image of a me story attached to a body etc. is over ......
one is simply that Ever Present Seed Essence of Perfection ...
* Bhagavan has stated that his mission is to bring 64,000
people to enlightenment by the year 2012. This is .001% of the
world's population. This number is the "100th monkey" that will
create the necessary resonance effect needed to create a wave
of mass enlightenment over a three day period in 2012.
Recently Bhagavan was asked about the 2012 effect.
G: right up there with the YK2 computer crash of the world .....
or the end of the mayan calendar ----- while this sounds good
it is speculation .....
Question: What is the significance of the year 2012?
B: Bhagavan: OK. Most of you know that the earth has got a
magnetic field. As the earth's molten core is rotating, the
magnetic field is created. The thought sphere of the human
mind is located in the earth's magnetic field. This magnetic field
has been weakening dramatically over last ten years.
G: nonsense ......
B: Now, in physics there is a parameter called "Schumann's
Resonance". Using that we can determine the strength of the
earth's magnetic field. While for many centuries, it was
constant around 7.80 cycles per second, during the last 7-8
years, it has risen to 11 cycles per second and is continuing to
increase dramatically. If you work it out mathematically, it
appears that, by the year 2012, the "Schumann's" is likely to be
13 cycles per second. When this resonance is 13 cycles per
second, the earth's core would stop rotating with magnetic field
gone, you mind is gone. When I say "your mind", what I mean is
your "samskaras". The pressure of the past 11,000 years of
samskaras will vanish.
G: if that Were the case then this idea that there needs to be
the 100th monkey of consciousness would be Irrelevant ......
B: In the Dharma, we also say, "Mind is Karma". All actions
start from your mind. The mind is nothing but a storehouse of
samskaras or past life vasanas from which all action emanates.
G: this is true .... it is this from which we are freed in
Realization ......
B: This is stored in the earth's magnetic field. So in the year
2012, it will become zero for a few days. After that the core will
start rotating again. This would be a fresh beginning for man or
the dawn of the Golden Age. This is the significance of the year
2012.
G: in that case again Nothing would need to take place .....
so this pushing for his plan to give Enlightenment to a certain
amount of personages is once again bogus ...... both
postulations can not hold water simultaneously ......
B: How do we know it will happen? The study of fossil
records has shown that, it happens roughly after 11,000 years.
It's only a short time away and then we can all start afresh.
G: so why the pushing with such a high pricetag ?
Yes this is the end of Kali Yuga and WHY so many are
starting to have spontaneous awakenings ......
B: That is why I want you to become enlightened by 2012. If
you are enlightened, with all your samskaras gone, we can
begin a new yuga, which can be called Satya Yuga or the
Golden Age. Man will enter into a new state of altered
consciousness.
G: hahahahahaha it is going to take place as it is ......
this is Why a Realized one is not within a messiah complex ....
there is no need ...... each will begin to Awaken within their own
timing .... for those who are awakening now there are Gurus in
place to aide them in their journey.....
B: As I told you already, the earth's resonance is increasing
which means the earth's heart is undergoing a transformation.
The earth has got a physical body, like you have a body. It
has got a consciousness as well. Now, as the resonance of the
earth's heartbeat is increasing, the earth's heart functions very
differently than before. Now, your heart and the earth's heart are
connected. The earth's heart can be influenced by your heart
and vice versa. That is why, it is essential that your heartbeat
synchronise with the earth's resonance. This means your heart
must flower. Your heart will flower when you discover love in
your relationships.
G: will say only that Bhakti is an essential part of any path .....
B: If you have discovered love, you must stop judging your
parents, spouses, etc., internally. Nobody can be judged as the
whole universe directly influences all events, even the behaviour
of people.
G: then there would be no way to break free of it ..... each has
Free will and therefore are able to break out of such influences
......
B: So learn to experience life. Life has to be experienced, be it
pain or pleasure.
G: one must be ready to move beyond the attachments of life
and the aversions .......
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