We've got some wild and woolly days coming up this summer. I'm sure
there will be plenty to discuss.
- Bhairitu reporting from the set of the science fiction movie "California."
On 04/29/2015 08:54 AM, [email protected] [FairfieldLife] wrote:
Buck, I ran into Rick at Everybody's last week, and I asked him, "Is
it time to just shut FFL down?" He kinda shrugged it off and said he
glances at it once a week to make sure it's not completely out of
control. And, lately, aside from the ridiculous, hyper-egoic shitstorm
in reaction to Judy's brief return, the group is pretty calm. Bitch
all you want, but with Rick and I hardly giving a shit what goes on,
nothing is going to change.
---In [email protected], <[email protected]> wrote :
The bullies have run most wild here unchecked because nice people were
not protected and thoughtful folks often inside are afraid of
embroiling mean conflict upon themselves enough to invest in it, ..in
provoking the bullying..“/*For the record, I apologize for nothing.
Rien. Nada. Nichevo. Bupkus. I meant everything I've ever said here,
and stand by it fully.”*/In thinking together, people often may fail
in process of creative thought out of fears to extend themselves
individually in to the collective, for fear of engaging with evidently
untrustworthy folks. Engagement that may provoke unfriendly
embroilment which potentially might be brought on to themselves by
stepping forward in conversation. 'Thinking as process' takes skills
and practice to see dissonances as thinking and get good at it, to get
beyond ego and not let it get out of control. Too many of the writers
in character writing here derail creative thinking on FFL by their
default to the assault of the personal invective instead of just
commenting on a substance of the material brought. That abusive
character has been really unfortunate for the larger FFL community.The
challenge of FFL as a forum community is to find constructive ways of
engaging with people. That takes kindness, tolerance and patience as
skillsets and practice to be able to think together and be creative,
to look at and solve problems together. FFL is a long ways from that
by a grip of vice of some folks who dominate FFL.Collaborating in
'Disconfirmation': seeking different ways of looking at models, of
'thinking' in constructive conflict.Thoughtful conversation seems a
willing kind collaborative, a kind cooperative 'process in
disconfirmation'. By contrast a trust in kindness as element has been
driven out of Fairfieldlife at Yahoo-groups by a dominant methodical
use of personal invective in the ad hominem used as weapon to
personally hurt people here.Collaboration in a type of, Love? In
kindness to a creative process?Quite evidently thoughtful conversation
takes a civil kind collaboration in self-control to have productive
conversation. Some have done their poisonous work here with the
communal well-spring.Collaboration? Could many folks dare at all to
publicly disagree here on FFL anymore given the lack of self-restraint
in the culture that remains on FFL? What is mostly missing now from
the dominant FFL writing is a kindness to process, a love enough of
collaboration that seems necessary enough for there to be creative
thinking between people. Instead what we have is a culture of rudeness
that has long interrupted the communal thinking here and driven people
away.The cultural place that was FFL seems to have been poisoned. The
place evidently has died for lack of a willing collaboration as an
oxygen that could include other points of view other than some caustic
character of dominant internet haters and personalities in method. The
cost to FairfieldLife at Yahoo-groups has been the loss of a forum for
communal thinking.A pervasive unkindness in ad hominem-istic snark
parading as 'intellectual retort', it's the dominant 'culture' here at
FFL now, as the evident lack in thoughtful community culture here.
Folks otherwise have come instead to fear to spend their time thinking
here reading let alone posting here. It is a sad commentary on how it
has gone down for FFL. Many of the writers left here have in many ways
become the people they revile, bullies like they see Bevan or others
in the movement community.Salon, saloon or shalom; who would enter in
to a place met with the likes of, “You Suck..” or “Fuck you” as first
text lines or “You lying Fuck” as a subject heading? MJ, there was a
long period of a poisonous malignancy here in the postings between a
few people who came on before you came along and added to it in your
way. FFL is just not a safe place for well-meaning people to loiter or
join in hence most folks wandered out. Meditators and people around
Fairfield here always go 'whew-phew' and roll their eyes about the
reputation of FFL as a place for thoughtful dialogue whence FFL gets
mentioned. FFL got wrecked a while ago as a community place that way.
mjackson74 wrote, well Buck how do you account for the departure of
all the people who used to post on FFL in the years before I joined?
Looking back at the archives, there were a whole bunch of folk who had
already dropped out before I came along, so the fact that Judy, Anne,
Jimmy the Enlightened and Nappy Nabby jumped ship does not seem to be
that much of a recent trend.Yep, even Rick chooses to post substantial
material elsewhere now instead of posting to FFL as to just
shark-feeding for what is left remaining of FFL. A long list of people
is now gone before us who had once helped further the culture of the
list, mostly been driven off by an aggressive and appalling unkindness
of culture in the ongoing personal shark-like attack by the ad hominem
that evidently has become endemic here; that seeming 'professionals'
default to use in their writing method instead of simply dealing with
material posed. And those same complain about originality, thinking
and lack of creativity..*/Nothing to see here folks. Just another
person trying to blame the fact that he and the people he likes can't
think of anything intelligent to say on the people they don't like.
:-)/*Good timing, Turqb,Left or driven off? This as your thinking is
fine as intelligent retort on one level Anartaxius except, the low
post and dwindled active member counts may show something else.Looking
in on the culture of what is FFL now, is it a surprise the numbers
have dropped off when there is so much about Fairfield or larger
spiritual matter being talked about otherwise by others actively
involved in it? No, it is like the well was poisoned here by
some.Ironically there is an evident invective that is intolerance to
conversation here and to divergent idea by a concentration of some few
who remain active posting here.If could be we are just getting on with
our lives. Now that most of the TB crazies have left, some of the
tart, sharp conversation has dwindled, and there are less
opportunities for intelligent retorts. I think you would have welcomed
the change. 'Intelligent retort'?We've not been very good at
discussion here for some time on FFL and the place as a forum is
nearly dead.Yep, visiting looking back in on Fairfieldlife at
yahoo-groups evidently this is mostly a sad inhospitable place
rendered down to some pulp substance of travelogue, movie reviews and
the personal bickerings of a few. Om, for what once was
Fairfieldlife,Sooooooooooo, turns out that there WERE ZERO posts since
last night.Just another tell that FFL is going down for the count.
