Hi Tom B.: On Dec 2, 2005, at 3:03 PM, off_world_beings wrote:
> There are few statements so respectful and admiring in this day and > age about gurus. Well, I think you are exaggerating. I originally merely proposed that this over adulation on the Beatles could be typical movement disinformation. Having just finished reading McCartney's biography-- the chapter entitled "Maharishi"--I think my initial impressions were good. P. was aware of only one of Mahesh's indiscretions from what he says. He does not appear to have any knowledge of any of the other TMO scandals or the more spiritually incestual aspect. He does not appear to be a regular meditator, but merely someone who uses it for "centering". He does feel the TMSP seemed to be a scam. His bio quotes him on asking M. specifically about levitation and M. admits he does not practice it. McCartney did not want to learn the TMSP and thought it was overpriced (price gouging). He was also very suspicious of M. when he found out the "holy man" had an accountant. Overall I think PM is a very optimistic, upbeat person and that optimism shines through in all of his relations. He is very clear in his bio to point out that M. was not enlightened, merely a meditation teacher and that is how he relates to him and sees him. Also, on a more positive note, he also tells his kids that they too should receive mantras in case they ever feel the desire to meditate when they are "alone on a hill." But the really the person of interest, when sizing up the Beatles acceptance of TM as a technology is GH. Clearly he found it lacking. Now before you go off on another rant, this is not to say that these people dislike M. intensely or anything like that. He's just a meditation teacher it would seem and they hold no grudges for the most part, another good thing. > Vaj is clearly jelous of these and other > statements. No I feel they are merely taken out of the larger context as yet another form of marketing but really they express even more the great need of TMers and TB's to feel the "the Beatles have returned to the fold". It also appears they don't know the extent of M.'s misdeeds. If they knew the extent of the debauch, I suspect these more neutral positions might change to be more like JL's. But at the same time, PM does seem to see things through rose colored glasses. Also, to answer one of your other comments, my teacher has told me how to approach other teachers, how to test them and how to know what is legit. One of the quotes he used is actually on the FFL website: "Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings -- that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide." ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
