---In [email protected], <anartaxius@...> wrote : I suppose, if she does not return, this post (below) will be her epitaph.
Gee, an epitaph of over 1,700 words. I guess I must have been pretty darned important, huh? aryavaszhi wrote: "The people I admire most in my life, spiritually speaking, have a strong sense of detachment (or non-attachment)." I think this year's Master of Inadvertent Irony title has to be awarded jointly to both ghouls. Proclaiming themselves admirers of nonattachment, they insist on repeatedly demonstrating, as they do here, how very far they are from achieving it themselves. This is why I don't hate them. Can't even call it hypocrisy in individuals so hopelessly self-unaware. (They're good for a laugh, though, as they masturbate each other with their rancid ego-fantasies. Watch where you step!) BTW, to those who ignored my advice not to waste time speculating as to why I stopped posting, not one of you even came within hailing distance. But here's a freebie: The reason was entirely positive, and it had nothing to do with FFL per se. ---In [email protected], <[email protected]> wrote : ---In [email protected], <turquoiseb@...> wrote : Whatever your reasons for doing this, congratulations! Thanks I fully accept this praise. It is conscious, but also involuntary in some sense, automatic, to see if it is possible. Judy *almost* managed a fairly clean exit from this place, leaving without a word of explanation and thus leaving behind a mystery. People could have been lulled by that seeming mystery into believing that she was "making a new start" or trying to become something different than she had been for years, or do something else that was...uh...actually positive. Yep, why not DO something, instead of just talk, talk, talk. You are active, doing something constructive in your life, and so do I - you know about that. So we blasted that 'mystery'. Though I think that mystery was never really planned by her, it was in all likelihood a physical necessity - which she is probably too embarrased to share with us. Her decline, also due to old age, was foreseeable. And it is a real blessing, that it is not actually working out in front of us all, we just got a little glimpse of it. By falling for your troll, she eliminated the possibility of that ever happening. In 9 short posts she revealed that instead of making some kind of new start and making some kind of spiritual progress away from FFL, SHE NEVER EVEN LEFT. She's been reading it compulsively, every day for ten months. One of my credos comes from cinematograpy: Don't say, show! Nobody can really prove how stupid he is, than a fool himself. Just let him act out. In this case, I do feel compassion with her, because she looked sooo bad! We know this because she tried to make *her* version of the Lemming Rush to The_Leak into the "definitive" This-Is-The-Truth-Because-Judy-Says-It-Is version. We know that in the past she has berated people for "spotty reading" and claimed that they could not *possibly* know the "truth" about things that happen on FFL if they don't read every post the way she does, so we know that to make such a claim as to "know" exactly what happened with The_Leak exodus, she was reading every post. As I've suggested a couple of times, that is almost too pathetic to be commented on -- Judy Stein, mysteriously disappearing from FFL, but in reality glued to her screen reading every post, every day, because she's that addicted to it. By falling for your troll, and then ranting about me, Salyavin and you the way she did, she also blew away any notion that anyone could have had that she'd "moved on" or somehow outgrown the hatred she was known for here for so many years. Not only is the hatred still there, it's worse than ever -- she's actually MORE angry and frustrated now after not interacting with us for ten months than she was before. Now this is really interesiting: how many people thought, in fact, that 'she has moved on'. There was always the possibility of a physical demise, or ailment, but it seems, that many, even true blue TMers (which she always was) believed, that she had a change of heart, that finally, she didn't post here anymore, because, she found her new beliefs not in allignment with her old ones, that some kind of lurking, underground conflict with the TM at large had resurfaced, and I feel that many would have seen this as a kind of progress, or at least some kind of liberation from her current mental prison. Because, if somebody like her, is so obsessive over the years, with a certain topic, TM, the TM technique and it's fundamental theory, she was not just obsessed with you and me, and isn't it largely interchangebale, all kinds of guys who came in the meantime, she obsessed about, a whole legacy of TM critics she was constantly chasing and obsessing about. How many have left here or at AMT because of her? What an honor that in her final replic here, my name appeared next to yours, but of course, our names are just placeholders for so many others. This attachment and obsessiveness, wouldn't we all have subconsciously wished for her, that in some kind of sublime moment of grace was broken, not only her obsession with FFL and the persons involved, but also, and even more fundamentaly her obsession with basic TM thinking and theory. To break this, almost anything would have been good enough, and at least it would have given you the illusion, that change is indeed possible. She destroyed this illusion, by returning here and acting out as expected. Finally, by claiming that The_Leak (with a grand total of 9 people posting to it) is healthy and thriving and stealing people away from FFL (with an average of 27 people posting to it) is just nuts. Those who had somehow managed to forget how tenous Judy's relationship with reality was during her "absence" has certainly been reminded of it now. In Judyworld, 8 people (Rick only posts spam) talking about inanities and how special they are in between obsessing about the terrible, horrible thugs who drove them away from FFL is a success. Whereas the often-interesting mix of conversations on FFL among over three times that number of people means that it's devolved into a "smoking ruin." That's proof positive that Judy's once-sharp mind has degraded to mush during the months she's spent with her eyes glued to the screen reading every post made to FFL but feeling superior because she doesn't reply to them. As I said, that degration was foreseeable, and indicated already since at least end of 2011, during the Robin episode. I actually waited for it. Until now. Invisible, lurking in the background where no one could see her, Judy could still imagine that she was actually revered by some on FFL. But by falling into your trap, she blew that completely, and in only 9 posts. She *rendered herself a joke*. That's so sad, really. Now, because the only fans and ass-kissers she had left have all fled to The_Leak, she's got no one left here on FFL who still believes in the image she tried to create. She couldn't resist doing a drive-by, and now everyone else is laughing at her as the joke she is. When she falls for the NEXT provocation and comes back for her NEXT drive-by, everyone will know even more how much of a joke she is, and read what she writes only as a means to get to the punchline sooner. What a debacle. What a failure. Yes. It's sad really. Why didn't she make her appearance to those poor souls at the peak? You honestly have to ask this to yourself. Why didn't she honor their attempts, and stay in a forum, where everything is as she has wished? She obviously didn't answer letters of concern and appreciation, which I am sure she got, but instead makes a big declaration here, discounting all those attempts. Why? And instead reacts to the provocation of a person she dispices, moy, why? It's not logical, right? The reason is very simple: she is not really interested in anything that is going on at the_peak, she never was, she was always only interested in controversy and fighting, that's the truth. The_peak is more like facebook, share some photos be nicy nicy, and tell what you did last Saturday. They could actually just disolve it and go on facebook. The main problem Judy has, is her obsessiveness. And I think she knows this very well. In this sense, any internet forum or exchange is poison for her. And all because she couldn't stand someone pointing how how little contact she actually had with the cult she's obsessively defended as a cult apologist for over twenty years. That's the interesting thing: obviously that doesn't mean very much, because all is in the head. She had wished desparately to be in the IN, to belong to the group, and when it was pointed out, that her contact was only minimal, she was flaring up. I'm only sorry that Curtis and Vaj aren't around to see how far she's fallen, and what a laughingstock she's made of herself... And not only Curtis and Vaj, there is a legion of people, whom she was chasing away, from AMT as well as from FFL. Just to name a few: John Knapp, Joe Kellett, Sudarshan, Mike Doughney and many more. On behalf of all of them, we can now declare victory: the dragon has been slain. From: aryavazhi <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 11:26 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: List Culture and The FFL Post Count Judy hallizunates: 'aryavazhi's lies about me were not "minute details," they were significant misrepresentations of my TM history, calculated to portray me as someone who knew nothing of Maharishi's teaching. He was well aware that wasn't so, but he didn't think I'd be reading the post, so he thought he was safe.' Answer: Wrong! I was well aware that you could be reading it, that you could be lurking. There was a good possibility for that, and there is always a chance to test the grounds - that's a given. Ann had told us that no fatal accident had occured, that you were well. What I wrote was, to about 65% directed to people who knew me from before here, also to give them a clue to who I am, and to 35% it was a conscious and direct provocation, to test grounds, to see if I could trick you out of your hiding place. You forgot that we pulled off this number regularely when we made you overpost, week after week. You also forgot, that with a similar post, I tricked Robin back to FFL, simply by posting a link to his Ayatollah comment, which you liked so much. I already formulated my opinion about you, triggered by some driveby invocations from peaksters, in a post two days before, but somehow this didn't got sent. So I made a new attempt and embedded it in another larger post. Obviously that worked. And what I wrote to Buck was 100% honest and true. Yes, I employed sarcasm and satire, yes I was provocative. But I didn't think there were people so stupid not to recognize it. You surely remember your own unspontaneous and pathetic attempts at satire in collaboration with Robin. Thanks I fully accept this praise. Judy *almost* managed a fairly clean exit from this place, leaving without a word of explanation and thus leaving behind a mystery. People could have been lulled by that seeming mystery into believing that she was "making a new start" or trying to become something different than she had been for years, or do something else that was...uh...actually positive. By falling for your troll, she eliminated the possibility of that ever happening. In 9 short posts she revealed that instead of making some kind of new start and making some kind of spiritual progress away from FFL, SHE NEVER EVEN LEFT. She's been reading it compulsively, every day for ten months. We know this because she tried to make *her* version of the Lemming Rush to The_Leak into the "definitive" This-Is-The-Truth-Because-Judy-Says-It-Is version. We know that in the past she has berated people for "spotty reading" and claimed that they could not *possibly* know the "truth" about things that happen on FFL if they don't read every post the way she does, so we know that to make such a claim as to "know" exactly what happened with The_Leak exodus, she was reading every post. As I've suggested a couple of times, that is almost too pathetic to be commented on -- Judy Stein, mysteriously disappearing from FFL, but in reality glued to her screen reading every post, every day, because she's that addicted to it. By falling for your troll, and then ranting about me, Salyavin and you the way she did, she also blew away any notion that anyone could have had that she'd "moved on" or somehow outgrown the hatred she was known for here for so many years. Not only is the hatred still there, it's worse than ever -- she's actually MORE angry and frustrated now after not interacting with us for ten months than she was before. Finally, by claiming that The_Leak (with a grand total of 9 people posting to it) is healthy and thriving and stealing people away from FFL (with an average of 27 people posting to it) is just nuts. Those who had somehow managed to forget how tenous Judy's relationship with reality was during her "absence" has certainly been reminded of it now. In Judyworld, 8 people (Rick only posts spam) talking about inanities and how special they are in between obsessing about the terrible, horrible thugs who drove them away from FFL is a success. Whereas the often-interesting mix of conversations on FFL among over three times that number of people means that it's devolved into a "smoking ruin." That's proof positive that Judy's once-sharp mind has degraded to mush during the months she's spent with her eyes glued to the screen reading every post made to FFL but feeling superior because she doesn't reply to them. Until now. Invisible, lurking in the background where no one could see her, Judy could still imagine that she was actually revered by some on FFL. But by falling into your trap, she blew that completely, and in only 9 posts. She *rendered herself a joke*. Now, because the only fans and ass-kissers she had left have all fled to The_Leak, she's got no one left here on FFL who still believes in the image she tried to create. She couldn't resist doing a drive-by, and now everyone else is laughing at her as the joke she is. When she falls for the NEXT provocation and comes back for her NEXT drive-by, everyone will know even more how much of a joke she is, and read what she writes only as a means to get to the punchline sooner. What a debacle. What a failure. And all because she couldn't stand someone pointing how how little contact she actually had with the cult she's obsessively defended as a cult apologist for over twenty years. I'm only sorry that Curtis and Vaj aren't around to see how far she's fallen, and what a laughingstock she's made of herself... From: aryavazhi <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 11:26 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: List Culture and The FFL Post Count Judy hallizunates: 'aryavazhi's lies about me were not "minute details," they were significant misrepresentations of my TM history, calculated to portray me as someone who knew nothing of Maharishi's teaching. He was well aware that wasn't so, but he didn't think I'd be reading the post, so he thought he was safe.' Answer: Wrong! I was well aware that you could be reading it, that you could be lurking. There was a good possibility for that, and there is always a chance to test the grounds - that's a given. Ann had told us that no fatal accident had occured, that you were well. What I wrote was, to about 65% directed to people who knew me from before here, also to give them a clue to who I am, and to 35% it was a conscious and direct provocation, to test grounds, to see if I could trick you out of your hiding place. You forgot that we pulled off this number regularely when we made you overpost, week after week. You also forgot, that with a similar post, I tricked Robin back to FFL, simply by posting a link to his Ayatollah comment, which you liked so much. I already formulated my opinion about you, triggered by some driveby invocations from peaksters, in a post two days before, but somehow this didn't got sent. So I made a new attempt and embedded it in another larger post. Obviously that worked. And what I wrote to Buck was 100% honest and true. Yes, I employed sarcasm and satire, yes I was provocative. But I didn't think there were people so stupid not to recognize it. You surely remember your own unspontaneous and pathetic attempts at satire in collaboration with Robin.
