--- anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Frankly, I don't think Dr. Pete was intending
> bigotry. However, I
> think his slant and smug comments, while
> "tongue-in-check" and thus
> "pluasubly deniable" are ridiculing a (to millions)
> sacred religious
> practice. Implying they are worthless hokum -- based
> on the example of
> one mixed-up white boy. That builds a foundation for
> further "all in
> fun" tongue-in-check" degrading comments about
> hindus and their
> practices. Or any religion.
No, that's not my intent at all. The focus was on
Tom's racism in previous posts and not on the
validity/non-validity of yagyas. I would never spoof
someone's religious practices regardless of my
attitude towards them. Why? It would serve no purpose
at all and simply would be what you state above.
>
> Like the slippery slope of judging a woman's
> veracity by education,
> profession etc, there is a sippery slope of bigotry,
> IMO. Like the
> woman's example Phd > executive > community leader >
> teacher > mom >
> walmart worker > trailer park resident > topless
> dancer > prostitute
> -- where do you draw the line of "veracity". You
> don't! Its a false
> premise that there is such a gradation. Its a false
> model.
>
> In the same way with a bigotry heirarchy: yagyas are
> ineffective and
> silly < people who do yagyas are silly < people who
> do things
> differently than us are strange < its the strange
> people who are
> causing the problems < townies are ignorant rednecks
> < who are those
> camel jockey's who moved next door < those towel
> heads setting fires
> to those cars up town ought to be deported - if not
> shot < blacks
> should be profiled < arabs should ot be allowed on
> airplanes <
> mexicans are ruining america < jews control the
> media and have an
> agenda < this is a chirstian nation < I don't want
> any blacks or arabs
> living next door < lets deport all arabs < jews
> control all banks and
> are causing the depression
You know, I get your point, slightly over-stated, but
sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
>
> I cant even remember Mr Pall's slurs. Not sure where
> to put them in on
> the scale.
>
> The above comparision is probably flawed. Objections
> can be made in
> any number of superficial areas I am sure. But the
> theme of
> stereotyping, starting at "innocent" tongue-in-check
> levels, provide
> the (in)tolerance and foundatin for more advanced
> stereotypes and
> bigotry. And like the woman's veracity scale, its a
> false model. Its
> based on false associations of traits with a
> particular group.
>
> But I digress. My main concern with Dr. Pete was
> that he was rudely,
> IMO, making jokes about sacred ceremonies.
Just to be clear agin, that was not my intent. I was
goofing on Tom, not yagyas. I do have my opinions on
yagyas/jyotish/vastu but would not express them in
such a passive-aggressive way.
> Which is
> ok for crass
> people at all walks of life to do. As long as its
> consistent. My point
> was that there are probably sacred things in Mr
> Petes life that would
> offend him if ridiculed.
My penis is not small! Why do you always claim this?
These character attacks regarding my manhood must stop
right now! Rick, can we ban him from the newsgroup?
> If not, ridicule away if
> that makes you
> happy. But if Mr Pete or others have areas they hold
> sacred, outside
> of the boundaries of "fair ridicule" then its
> hypocrosy to ridicule
> sacred areas of others' lives.
Agree a 100%.
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