--- In [email protected], Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> I think the point here is that one's credilbility lies
> not in some sort of objective criteria we can all
> agree upon. These allegations of sexual advances
> and/or acts by MMY are believed by some and denied by
> others. A lot of it has to do with our own concept of
> what and who MMY is to us. Frankly, I see the sexual
> allegations as true because of my own
> belief/experience in the credibility of the accusers.
> I still also find MMY to be an amazing man/guru who
> has been the catalyst for profound changes in my
> consciousness. Why he's poking around in the bushes of
> CP's is beyond me!
> 
****
Dr Pete I find really intriguing your understanding about MMY and 
enlightenment. 
You have explained many times how in enlightenment there is no `I'. 
And you have explained  many times how you consider MMY to be an 
enlightened blazing Self, although he is also narcissistic and goofy 
in the personality department.

When you say MMY to be an amazing man/guru, do you mean the 
narcissistic personality department?  You couldn't refer to the `I'  
or self department, if there is no `I'? Or could you?

In a state of localized  conceptual and intellectual confusion I'm 
waiting for your answer.  


Irmeli






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