---In [email protected], <[email protected]> wrote :
Not in a chat room where he insults people that think otherwise. Besides, his belief is that TM will make the world a better place, on the other hand he's spent a lot of time slagging off the TMO for the way it handles things. That's what we mean by cognitive dissonance, he can't reconcile the fact that TM doesn't work for the TMO with his beliefs about how effective it is so he tries to remove the people who remind him of the dichotomy. I have not been a student of Doug's posting. There was a lot of the "same", so I skipped over most of it. But, I think your assessment is a little severe. Yes, I would say he has been able to reconcile more disparate points than most. That works for him. You mean you actually like it nice and bland? It doesn't bother you at all that there are only a few people left, and me only because there's nothing on TV tonight? Go figure. I think things are off to a great start. I've stated my opinion about issues here more that you wish to hear. I believe the consensus is that the tone has changed, and it has been a change for the positive. Without extremes and contrast you just get left with the banal middle ground and it stops new ideas getting discussed because they are unlikely to fit in with what the quiet majority wants and thinks to raise as topics itself. Everything slumps towards the safe boredom that drove Xeno away. I happen to disagree with your assessment. Two elements are missing from the interactions, and I feel the dialog has, and will continue to benefit from it. Evidently, a difference of opinion we have here. What gets your goat? What makes you want to raze the world to the ground and start it again? Do you ever care about anything enough to try and do something about it? Well, you don't know much about me, which is understandable. And I don't reveal too much. But, I am responsible for the livelihood of about twelve people, and I believe they would have my back under any circumstances, as I would have theirs. The quest for truth clearly doesn't get you going if you are "okay" with blatant attempts to deprive you of money! Or maybe you should pay a bit more attention... He is spouting a lot of nebulous theories to a very limited audience. If people want to buy into that, what concern is it of yours, or mine? Is anyone being coerced to participate? You sounded like an appeaser last week, staying quiet for the sake of a quiet life. That never ends well. Not that I feel the need to defend myself, but there was a period when I was wholly dedicated to changing the world, first politically, and then through the technology of the unified field, aka, TM. I threw myself wholeheartedly into that mission, but at some point, (and I remember distinctly), I changed. With regard to TM, or any spiritual path, I determined people will start that path when they are ready, and I gradually lost my enthusiasm along those lines. My efforts now are focussed on smaller goals. Trying to be a good parent, a good spouse, a good employer, and engaging in small acts of kindness when those opportunities arise. All the while feeling, in many ways, that my own personal development stretches me all the time. ---In [email protected], <[email protected]> wrote : ---In [email protected], <steve.sundur@...> wrote : Sorta funny, Sal, don't you agree? First you accuse Hagelin of all of his magical thinking, and then you appear to have special insight into Doug's thoughts and feelings. Oh well, that's how it goes at good 'ol FFL! I think it's a good guess about Doug. Cognitive dissonance is real and affects groups that have a strong "world saving" focus, when it all goes wrong and turns out to be nonsense they just carry on like everything is fine. It's classic True Believerism and I don't think it's funny at all but it is fascinating. I know loads of people who refuse to discuss the movement's many problems that it isn't supposed to have. And you think his dislike of us "apostates" is reasonable? It always sounded scary to me. And I accuse Hagelin of lying or delusions not magical thinking, though he might do that as well. ---In [email protected], <[email protected]> wrote : snip That's why he hates this place and all its "apostates" because we remind him that he backed a losing horse a long time ago and feels he has to keep riding the thing until the bitter end, any other way of looking at things being placed in front of him just puts him in Jihad mode and he resorts to the language of the fanatic. Or, if you prefer an emotional argument: This sick fuck makes me nauseous just to look at him....his vibe is mean-hearted, cruel, and relentlessly intend on domination. 2. Financial criminal. The Transcendental Meditation Organization has had a decades-long history of crimes. Large amounts of money go unaccounted. In lieu of how Girish TOOK OVER, it is LOGICAL to suspect Girish is a criminal instead of accepting him as an honest person. He shows zero motivation to explain how and why he deserves his present position. The TMO's books are vague, incomplete, and probably simply a pack of lies, and until a public accounting is made, no trust has been earned; the red flags waving must be inspected. 3. Rapist. The news has give us the accounting of 20 persons who say Girish raped a woman. END OF STORY. Girish should resign. Why? Because: Rama and Sita. Rama sent Sita to HELL because the people were falsely whispering about her having fucked Ravana, before she was rescued. FALSELY, but Rama sent her to hell because "A KING'S FAME IS HIS ONLY TREASURE. Maharishi Mahesh Yogi and a famous student of his, Harold Bloomfield, have also been accused and/or convicted of sexual crimes. Yet the TMO ignores these vile "blackeyes." Girish stole the movement, stole the money and said "Fuck your fame.....I'm your monster guru now.....suck it up you toads or lose your field badges and your shit jobs at MUM." He probably dropped a Jai Guru Dev in at the end too. Girish Verma raped victim for 15 yrs from 1999 to 2014 http://www.freepressjournal.in/girish-verma-raped-victim-for-15-yrs-from-1999-to-2014/ http://www.freepressjournal.in/girish-verma-raped-victim-for-15-yrs-from-1999-to-2014/ Girish Verma raped victim for 15 yrs from 1999 to 2014 http://www.freepressjournal.in/girish-verma-raped-victim-for-15-yrs-from-1999-to-2014/ Charge- sheet filed against Chancellor of Mahesh ogi varsity BHOPAL: The police, on Tuesday, filed charge- sheet against Chancellor of Maharishi Mahesh ogi Ved... View on www.freepressjournal.in http://www.freepressjournal.in/girish-verma-raped-victim-for-15-yrs-from-1999-to-2014/ Preview by Yahoo
