He is spouting a lot of nebulous theories to a very limited audience. If people
want to buy into that, what concern is it of yours, or mine? Is anyone being
coerced to participate?
This is in essence saying you don't care who is a con artist, nor who gets
conned as long as it isn't you. Interesting moral compass.
From: salyavin808 <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 4:58 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial
and sexual criminal?
---In [email protected], <steve.sundur@...> wrote :
---In [email protected], <[email protected]> wrote :
Not in a chat room where he insults people that think otherwise.
Besides, his belief is that TM will make the world a better place, on the other
hand he's spent a lot of time slagging off the TMO for the way it handles
things. That's what we mean by cognitive dissonance, he can't reconcile the
fact that TM doesn't work for the TMO with his beliefs about how effective it
is so he tries to remove the people who remind him of the dichotomy.
I have not been a student of Doug's posting. There was a lot of the "same", so
I skipped over most of it.But, I think your assessment is a little severe.
Yes, I would say he has been able to reconcile more disparate points than most.
That works for him.
How does reconciling things that shouldn't be happening become something
"working"? Sounds like denial to me.
You mean you actually like it nice and bland? It doesn't bother you at all that
there are only a few people left, and me only because there's nothing on TV
tonight? Go figure.
I think things are off to a great start.
Hmmm....
What gets your goat? What makes you want to raze the world to the ground and
start it again? Do you ever care about anything enough to try and do something
about it?
Well, you don't know much about me, which is understandable. And I don't
reveal too much. But, I am responsible for the livelihood of about twelve
people, and I believe they would have my back under any circumstances, as I
would have theirs.
Not what I meant....
The quest for truth clearly doesn't get you going if you are "okay" with
blatant attempts to deprive you of money! Or maybe you should pay a bit more
attention...
He is spouting a lot of nebulous theories to a very limited audience. If people
want to buy into that, what concern is it of yours, or mine? Is anyone being
coerced to participate?
It's everyone's concern if these "Nebulous theories" are a load of crap and can
be demonstrated to be so and are costing people who don't know any better an
awful lot of money.
Hiding behind a PHD and claiming to be a world renowned scientist for instance,
claiming that science has discovered this or that when your beliefs are so
outside of the mainstream they wouldn't be accepted as likely in a Harry Potter
movie.
I would say the movement goes out of it's way to persuade the faithful that it
- and it alone - is in possession of the real facts about life and that the
rest of the world has yet to catch up. From day one as a TMer they start
spinning the yarn of perfect knowledge from the unified field and all the
technologies they have to help you gain the most from life that don't actually
work but are all part of the mythos. I would say that's coercion, they do guilt
brilliantly too.
It's a religion and expanding the coffers at the expense of the flock is what I
expect. But the pope doesn't charge $5000 for a prayer. Check out the adverts
for the yagya programme starting with Marshy's bullshit lectures. It's con. I
care about people I know being conned.
---In [email protected], <[email protected]> wrote :
---In [email protected], <steve.sundur@...> wrote :
Sorta funny, Sal, don't you agree?
First you accuse Hagelin of all of his magical thinking, and then you appear to
have special insight into Doug's thoughts and feelings.
Oh well, that's how it goes at good 'ol FFL!
I think it's a good guess about Doug. Cognitive dissonance is real and affects
groups that have a strong "world saving" focus, when it all goes wrong and
turns out to be nonsense they just carry on like everything is fine. It's
classic True Believerism and I don't think it's funny at all but it is
fascinating. I know loads of people who refuse to discuss the movement's many
problems that it isn't supposed to have.
And you think his dislike of us "apostates" is reasonable? It always sounded
scary to me.
And I accuse Hagelin of lying or delusions not magical thinking, though he
might do that as well.
---In [email protected], <[email protected]> wrote :
snip
That's why he hates this place and all its "apostates" because we remind him
that he backed a losing horse a long time ago and feels he has to keep riding
the thing until the bitter end, any other way of looking at things being placed
in front of him just puts him in Jihad mode and he resorts to the language of
the fanatic.
Or, if you prefer an emotional argument: This sick fuck makes me nauseous just
to look at him....his vibe is mean-hearted, cruel, and relentlessly intend on
domination.
2. Financial criminal. The Transcendental Meditation Organization has had a
decades-long history of crimes. Large amounts of money go unaccounted. In
lieu of how Girish TOOK OVER, it is LOGICAL to suspect Girish is a criminal
instead of accepting him as an honest person. He shows zero motivation to
explain how and why he deserves his present position. The TMO's books are
vague, incomplete, and probably simply a pack of lies, and until a public
accounting is made, no trust has been earned; the red flags waving must be
inspected.
3. Rapist. The news has give us the accounting of 20 persons who say Girish
raped a woman. END OF STORY. Girish should resign.
Why? Because: Rama and Sita.
Rama sent Sita to HELL because the people were falsely whispering about her
having fucked Ravana, before she was rescued. FALSELY, but Rama sent her to
hell because "A KING'S FAME IS HIS ONLY TREASURE. Maharishi Mahesh Yogi and a
famous student of his, Harold Bloomfield, have also been accused and/or
convicted of sexual crimes. Yet the TMO ignores these vile "blackeyes."
Girish stole the movement, stole the money and said "Fuck your fame.....I'm
your monster guru now.....suck it up you toads or lose your field badges and
your shit jobs at MUM."
He probably dropped a Jai Guru Dev in at the end too.
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