yes, salyavin, I would miss you and your delightful sense of humor. So there!
It's true that you don't have to have been in Fairfield to have an opinion 
about TM'ers. But for me it makes the opinion more valid, if it's based on in 
person observation. Otherwise and this often is the case on FFL, the anti TM 
responses seem like knee jerk reactions rooted in the past.
I think all humans have a vested interest in their conclusions and 
interpretations. Scientists we're often not!
Still owe you a response...sweet dreams (-:
      From: salyavin808 <[email protected]>
 To: [email protected] 
 Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2015 11:05 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Apostates
   
    


---In [email protected], <sharelong60@...> wrote :

salyavin, Jai Guru You! I love how you keep saying bye but remain. Yay!
Consider that I keep getting re-incarnated as the same thing.
But you ignored my main point which is people are saying negative stuff and 
haven't even been in Fairfield, Ground Zero, in decades!
Was that your main point? I thought it was that you'd miss me. Boo!
I don't think you need have to have been in Fairfield at all to have an opinion 
about the TMO or TM as it all occurs in the head. And no matter how good a time 
you're having it doesn't change what I've seen and done. I'd like to know more 
about FF but no one ever posts anything because it gets analysed by people like 
me who might have a different viewpoint to what you've decided you want to 
hear. The recent "vedic" psychiatry debate springs to mind. I had some good 
questions about it for BUck but he didn't respond.
We have the net to keep us informed of how the inner workings of the TMO are 
going you see so we don't have to visit FF, the changes to the websites tell us 
a lot.What people post here tells us a lot. 
The thing is we all have a vested interest in our spiritual alma mater and how 
it turns out. Trouble is somebody round here doesn't want us to take part 
because we are "apostates". It's a silly term from a silly man who has ended up 
with too much power which he wields without considering the long term 
ramifications of his actions for the place. But then he doesn't take part 
himself so why should he care?

 Come on guys, get a little hands on and current experience before you wade in! 
Get a little present day skin in the game!
But having said that, I realize it's just my opinion, just my preference. And 
I'm a little OCD so some of the repetition zones me out. My bad!

Yes, life, Jai Guru Life, abounds in irony (-:
I finally looked up TTFN...


  From: salyavin808 <[email protected]>
 To: [email protected] 
 Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2015 7:27 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Apostates
 
 


---In [email protected], <sharelong60@...> wrote :

Though I will miss salyavin's science contributions and Xeno's dry humor and 
rationality, turq's passion and urbanity, I will enjoy immensely the absence of 
the deluge of anti TMO offerings, largely because they are made far far away 
from Ground Zero, so to speak. And I will even more immensely enjoy the more 
tamasic of said negative rantings. Rajo guna I don't mind so much (-:
Hey, whatdya know , I'm still here! Jai Guru Me!
But I don't really think there's been a deluge of anti-TMO offerings. What I 
recall is a lot of people who have personal and first hand experience of the 
weird cult that is TM have expressed - and justified - opinions that people 
like you and Buck don't like.
Why you don't like it is a mystery to me, this is - or was - a discussion room 
for people with opinions about TM, the TMO and anything else, to share. It's 
all on the home page.
But now Buck has assumed control and deleted all the interesting posters this 
place is now effectively just a bliss bunny forum with nothing to say. This is 
sad. The natural conclusion of censorship is that the only posts remaining are 
the ones nobody wants to read.
Look at what Buck used as an excuse to get rid of MJ. It's pathetic. I can't 
believe you lot are just going to go along with it and not object. But I guess 
that's what lifetime in a cult does for you. I remember being in the TMO and 
voicing a contrary opinion and was told that this is a dictatorship and my 
opinion wasn't relevant if it contradicted Marshy.
Funny thing is, Buck was a victim of this fearful fascism and banned from the 
domes for ages. He came here to rant about it.
Now he's back in the fold he's come over all Jai Guru Dev and wants to treat us 
(you) the same way he was treated. 
Ironic huh?

Just this morning I was reading that a couple of spiritual teachers aresaying 
that too much social media damages the third eye. One of them isactually 
closing all of his FB pages.
Probably just doesn't like the ability of people to offer a contrary opinion.
Bye salyavin, xeno and turq, wishing you all much happiness and good health, 
etc.  
Yeah, and you Share. You have been a source of fun here when you posted more. 
And I got some good book recommendations from you. I always thank people who 
open my eyes to things.
Somehow I'll have to find something else to do on my tea break!
TTFN ;-)  From: "steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife]" 
<[email protected]>
 To: [email protected] 
 Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2015 12:02 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Apostates
 
 Ouch!
I read xeno's post this morning, but couldn't reply.  (of course it's all in 
the yahoo/ffl/mailarchive), but I guess a line was crossed.
Too bad, cuz I like xeno's brand of cynicism for the most part, and of course, 
that dry, dry sense of humor.
That will not easily be replaced, IMO.




---In [email protected], <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote :

Dear Xenophaneros Anartaxius you are well aware of theyahoo-groups guidelines 
of invading privacy or slurring people on yahoo-groups. Bye. 



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