I've never set in on any negotiations that he has been involved in. Nor have I
read his book*The Art of the Deal*, a best seller. Neither have I spoken with
anyone that has negotiated with him and made deals with him. So no, I'm not
qualified to critique his negotiating skills. Have you ever read about or
spoken with anyone that has negotiated with him on anything? Do they feel
bullied, taken advantage of, cheated or maybe content? Or perhaps, they believe
they got the better of him!I do know that he is a successful business man and
negotiates business deals all over the world and must be doing something right.
I don't think you heard him say that he would hire the best *negotiators* as
*advisers*. I did hear him say he would have the best negotiators do the
*negotiating*. Advisers advise, negotiators negotiate.
From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2016 8:48 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :
Anne , are you in a position to criticize Trump's negotiating skills? If you
are , I think the New York Times would love to have an editorial from you, the
National Review also!
Sure I am and so are you. Just watch him. He may have pushed and bullied his
way around the corporate world but these tactics don't work as the leader of a
country. My reasons for thinking this are below in my initial post. It doesn't
take much of a brain to extrapolate from all of his bluster from the podium
that his way or the highway can only end in war and disaster. Perhaps he is all
hot air and were he to actually assume the office of the President of the US he
will turn out to be a contemplative, sane, rational, balanced human being but
from all evidence from the stump he appears exactly the opposite. It is
precisely because his techniques have worked in his (corporate) world so far
that he is stupid enough to think they will work in the different context in
his role as President (although he will never assume office). I heard him say
earlier on that he will hire the best negotiators in the world as his advisors
even though they are "harrible, harrible human beings". Does this sound like a
good idea to you?
I grew up in a family where the patriarch (my father) was one of the most
powerful and influential CEO's in the world. He was brave, smart, fair, decent
and yet no push over. I grew up around this. I know that no matter how tough
and how big you think you are you have to combine it with a balance that
includes empathy, heart, wisdom and depth and to understand and acknowledge
your own fallibility and weaknesses. In other words, you have to act like a
human being. It is only then that you command true respect instead of
generating rancor, resistance and resentment by others who you need to "deal"
with.
From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 9:16 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :
Feste, he's not my ideal candidate either! However, he has just as much
qualifications as Obama did , if not more. At least Trump has management,
executive and negotiating skills and built his own multi-billion dollar
*empire*. All Obama ever did was be a *community organizer*, whatever that is.
Whatever his academic achievements were are perceived as being based on
affirmative action based. How does an American student get a Fulbright
Scholarship? I've always heard those are reserved for foreign students.
Trump's zero political office experience is perceived by many as a plus. A lot
of people are tired of being promised one thing and then those promises
abandoned. A lot of people are tired of career politicians.Yeah, Trump is
perceived as a *fighter*. Throw a punch at him and he counters ten times
harder. Wasn't it Obama that said" if they bring a knife to a fight, we bring a
gun"?
However, Trump is a negotiator, I've never known Obama to negotiate anything.
It's always my way or they high way.
If Trump is nominated, I think he's got a pretty good shot.He's attracting a
coalition that Republicans have dreamed of but rarely get. There are a lot of
independents that are attracted to him.
I think you are dreaming if you thing Trump is some great negotiator. It is a
different matter dealing with other politicians, other charged circumstances
with regard to hostile countries or crazy dictators. You don't start telling
them what they're going to do and the blowback from stepping on some of these
people's toes is far bigger than losing a contract or some business deal going
sideways. Pissing off the wrong people because you're too narcissistic or too
delusional to realize you aren't the Big Man of Campus can result in actual
war, not just lost revenue. He may have been able to snowplow his way around
the business world but he has no idea about the ramifications were he to try
his strong arming in the political world as President. Trump is a menace.
From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 10:19 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump
I still regard the Trump candidacy as an absurdity. Trump has no
qualifications to be US president. He has zero experience of political office.
He is unsuited by temperament to the office and would be a dangerous person to
be in that position of power. I do not believe he has a chance of being
elected.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote :
Mike, thanks so much for your insights, very helpful.
I think the Tea Party totally screwed up the Republican Party and I also think
Trump, for that situation, is just what the doctor ordered.
Why does the RP hate Cruz? Just because he questions them? Or something more
specific?
From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]"
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 8:53 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump
It really is a dilemma isn't it. Trump is not a true conservative but a
populist. Trump is attracting people from all over the place. Many undecideds,
which is what Republicans have been after for years. Yet, they don't trust the
guy with his *New York* values which are ultra liberal. He is to the left of
most establishment Republicans but to the right of any Democrat, which is why I
think moderate(liberal) Republicans are starting to find him a bit more
acceptable. Ether him or Cruz, and that blows the mind of establishment
Republicans. Cruz just won't play ball with his *superiors* and that really
pisses them off! As long as the race is between the two, the Republican
establishment will eventually line up behind Trump whether they like him or not
because they hate Cruz.
From: "emptybill@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 7:57 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump
Why establishment conservatives are on the rally against Trump.
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