I learned something today. Debt vs. deficit: What’s the difference? http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2014/feb/27/debt-vs-deficit-whats-difference/ http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2014/feb/27/debt-vs-deficit-whats-difference/ Debt vs. deficit: What’s the difference? http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2014/feb/27/debt-vs-deficit-whats-difference/ What word starts with View on www.politifact.com http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2014/feb/27/debt-vs-deficit-whats-difference/ Preview by Yahoo Mike, you don't seem to understand what the numbers mean relative to the way the conversation needs to be framed, relative to the trajectory of history and relative to what is projected in the future, REGARDLESS of who is in office. Here is politifact attempting to explain it to us ignorants again.
Obama has added more to national debt than the previous 43 presidents combined, chain e-mail states http://www.politifact.com/new-jersey/statements/2012/may/04/chain-email/obama-has-added-more-national-debt-previous-43-pre/ http://www.politifact.com/new-jersey/statements/2012/may/04/chain-email/obama-has-added-more-national-debt-previous-43-pre/ Obama has added more to national debt than the prev... http://www.politifact.com/new-jersey/statements/2012/may/04/chain-email/obama-has-added-more-national-debt-previous-43-pre/ When it comes to increasing the national debt, President Barack Obama has done more than his 43 predecessors combined. Well, at least that’s accordin... View on www.politifact.com http://www.politifact.com/new-jersey/statements/2012/may/04/chain-email/obama-has-added-more-national-debt-previous-43-pre/ Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Emily, the national debt has increased almost 9 trillion dollars under Obama. Bush left office with a national debt of slightly over 10 trillion dollars. Obama will be leaving a national debt of about 20 trillion. The congress has given Obama about 1 trillion dollars over revenues( that's 1 trillion dollars of deficit spending) every year he has been in office. He just hasn't spent it on an Iraqi war. From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 2:57 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Donald's message is here to stay, even if he is not Mike, please.....read this. Look at the larger picture! It is a balanced assessment by politifact and it doesn't summarily exonerate Obama in his claims either. http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/jan/20/barack-obama/barack-obama-claims-deficit-has-decreased-two-thir/ http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/jan/20/barack-obama/barack-obama-claims-deficit-has-decreased-two-thir/ http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/jan/20/barack-obama/b... http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/jan/20/barack-obama/barack-obama-claims-deficit-has-decreased-two-thir/ � View on www.politifact.com http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/jan/20/barack-obama/barack-obama-claims-deficit-has-decreased-two-thir/ Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : What are you talking about? Nobody's funding it! Obama has run a deficit of a trillion dollars every year he has been in office! From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 11:19 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Donald's message is here to stay, even if he is not One thing to keep in mind is not mistaking his noise for sustained popularity, enough to clinch the White House. On the other hand, he has been created, in a cheap and ugly way, out of a legitimate frustration at having trusted an establishment that has consistently widened the gulf between the haves and have-nots, while the middle class funds it all. I trust when the dust settles that people will vote for well thought out ideas and experience, that address their concerns, vs. electing this guy. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <olliesedwuz@...> wrote : Yep, the guy crossed a line with that little vignette - I can't recall in my lifetime when the presumptive nominee for either major party said he'd like to punch someone in the face. Beyond disgusting - He is done. I agree it shows his absolute shallowness, and pandering to our basest emotions. I heard him say after his win in Nevada that it proves he can do anything he wants, say anything he wants (including kill someone - he actually included this) and people still love him. He was serious. When I awoke to my alarm clock with the news as my wake up call it was chilling (and alarming). There was the Trump crowd shouting in what could only described as the equivalent of a stadium full of people bellowing, "Heil Hitler'. Many in America have gone mad. It is not Trump that is the problem - it is what he has awakened and validated in these people. He had given license to an ugliness and brutality in others that is growing into a crescendo of demented voices echoing throughout America. Luckily, there seems to be an opposite and equally loud outcry and recognition of this monstrous movement from those who see what is happening. How to stop it? I'm not sure. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote : It's a sad day when a thug like Trump can take over one of America's great political parties. I see that yesterday he was saying, about a protester at a rally, that in the old days they would carry such people out on a stretcher (cheers), and he clearly relished those old days and chafed at the restrictions that now apply. He also said that he would like to punch the protester in the face (more cheers). Has it really come to this? Will America vote for a narcissistic fascist? Hillary will shred this guy in the debates because he is an ignoramus who has not thought through a single one of his so-called policy proposals. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <emptybill@...> wrote : Nationalism and populism propel Trump As the returns came in from South Carolina Saturday night, showing Donald Trump winning a decisive victory, a note of nervous desperation crept into the commentary. Political analysts pointed out repeatedly that if all of the votes for Marco Rubio, Ted Cruz, John Kasich, Jeb Bush and Ben Carson were added up, they far exceeded the Trump vote. Why this sudden interest in arithmetic? If the field can be winnowed, we were told, if Carson and Kasich can be persuaded to follow Bush and get out, if Cruz can be sidelined, if we can get a one-on-one Rubio-Trump race, Trump can be stopped. Behind the thought is the wish. Behind the wish is the hope, the prayer that all the non-Trump voters are anti-Trump voters. But is this true? Or are the media deluding themselves? Watching these anchors, commentators, consultants and pundits called to mind the Cleveland Governors Conference of 1964. Sen. Goldwater had just won the winner-take-all California primary, defeating Gov. Nelson Rockefeller, assuring himself of enough delegates to go over the top on the first ballot at the Cow Palace in San Francisco. But with polls showing Barry losing massively to LBJ, the panicked governors at Cleveland conspired to block his nomination. Michigan Gov. George Romney and Pennsylvania Gov. Bill Scranton were prodded to enter the race. Scranton would declare his availability in San Francisco with a letter accusing Goldwater of hostility toward civil rights – Barry had voted against the 1964 bill – and of excessive tolerance toward right-wing extremists such as the John Birch Society. And what became of them all? Goldwater won his nomination and went down in a historic defeat, but became a beloved figure and the father of modern conservatism. Of those who turned their backs on Goldwater that fall, none ever won a presidential nomination. Of those who stood by Barry that fall, Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan, both would win the GOP nomination twice, and the presidency twice. And the conservative movement would hold veto power over party nominees and become the dominant philosophy of the GOP. Folks forget. Not only were there “liberal Republicans” and “moderate Republicans” back then, they dominated the landscape. Yet rare is the Republican today who would describe himself in such terms. Which brings us back to the anti-Trump cabal. While their immediate goal is to deny him the nomination, do they really think that if the party nominates Rubio, things can be again as they were before Trump? Do they not see that America and the West are undergoing a series of crises that will change our world forever? Bernie Sanders is not all wrong. There is a revolution going on. Late in the last century, when Robert Bartley was editorial editor, the Wall Street Journal championed a constitutional amendment of five words – “There shall be open borders.” Bartley, who told colleague Peter Brimelow, “I think the nation-state is finished,” wanted U.S. borders thrown open to people and goods from all over the world. To Bartley and his acolytes, what made America one nation and one people was simply an ideology. But what was silly then is suicidal today. Whatever one may think of Trump’s talk of building a wall, does anyone think the United States is not going to have to build a security fence to defend our bleeding 2,000-mile border? Given the huge trade deficits with China, Japan, Mexico and the EU, the hemorrhaging of manufacturing, the stagnation of wages and the decline of the middle class, does anyone think that if Trump is turned back, the GOP can continue on being a free-trade party financed by the Beltway agents of transnational corporations? Absent some major attack on the homeland, do our foreign-policy elites believe the American people would support new U.S. interventions to defeat, occupy and tutor Third World nations in liberal democracy? Trump is winning because on immigration, amnesty, securing our border and staying out of any new crusades for democracy, he has tapped into the most powerful currents in politics: economic populism and “America First” nationalism. Look at the crowds Trump draws. Look at the record turnouts in Republican caucuses and primaries. If Beltway Republicans think they can stop Trump and turn back the movement behind him, and continue on with today’s policies on trade, immigration and intervention, they will be swept into the same dustbin of history as the Rockefeller Republicans. America is saying, “Goodbye to all that.” For Trump is not only a candidate. He is a messenger from Middle America. And the message he is delivering to the establishment is: We want an end to your policies and we want an end to you. If the elites think they can not only deny Trump the nomination, but turn back this revolution and re-establish themselves in the esteem of the people, they delude themselves. This is hubris of a high order.