On 03/30/2016 06:48 PM, olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
I agree that TM along with any other valid breakthrough is going to
attract those hoping to be a big frog in a small pond.
But no need to overlook that TM is also the most effective technique
in promoting the entire cycle of higher states of consciousness, in a
systematic way. There is no other technique available to the masses
today that is even close. So, sure, watch against hubris, but no need
for equivocation or false modesty towards TM, as it is unique in its
attributes and effects, compared to the vast array of spiritual
products available today.
Hardly, it is yoga lite for the masses and a pop culture technique for
the 1970s. We're in the 21st century. There are plenty of real yogis
around who can teach much more powerful techniques and even better yoga
lite techniques. But if one doesn't get out much they won't know that.
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :
Bingo! You also have that problem within the TM community. Everybody
telling others what they *should or shouldn't * do and *oh, Maharishi
wouldn't want that* syndrome(as if they were more enlightened and in
tune with him).
It seems to be essential for most people to be able to count
themselves extra special or extra smart or extra privileged in some
way. If that means their particular meditation technique is the
greatest or that the particular country club they belong to is the
most prestigious then that is how they play it. Most of us like to
feel a bit exceptional in some way, and we probably are but not in the
ways we think we are!
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*Subject:* RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Activist Meditators and A day of
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Spiritually immature people in a lot of groups behave like this. “Our
technique/teacher/etc. is the bestest!” It’s an ego-booster. “It must
be the best because if it weren’t I wouldn’t be doing it, because I’m
so discerning and wise.”
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silent prayer ..Meditation 's Going Mainstream
Yeah, TM’ers do seem to contend a fight over meditations. The
antagonism with the other practices begins right away in the TM intro
lectures. Seems a marketing device employed on or by TM'ers.
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<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>, <mdixon.6569@...
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TM teachers are persnickety because Maharishi was when he was training
teachers. He always drove home the difference between TM and other
techniques
when asked about them. He was *faulting* the other techniques and
explained why TM was *better*. This is fine when you're teaching
teachers. However, good manner s dictates you don't take that attitude
when in *mixed* company. I don't recall M doing that when he was in
the company of another teacher...run the other guys meditation down
and build his up.
As I said earlier, can TM'ers know when to not run the other guys
meditation down in order to look superior.
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*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Activist Meditators and A day of
silent prayer ..Meditation 's Going Mainstream
But why are TM’ers so persnickety? Among old Quakers those members who
were well established in the transcendent, noticeably as those who
could sit with and settle a meeting by their presence, were referred
to as ‘weighty’ friends to meditate with. TM’ers instead can come
across as spiritually arrogant and exclusive. Yet, Patanjali seems to
indicate in his discussion of combining dharana, dhyan and samadhi in
meditation like the in the aggregate of the TM-siddhis or in that last
technique Maharishi was working on, the Ved and Physiology practice
that combines attention and intention (very much like some buddhistic
practice) with samadhi/transcendence. TM’ers could adopt a more
helpful attitude and show up for some of these collective meditations
with others. Like reaching out and lending a hand. It seems a cultural
problem as much as anything that TM’ers may have which turns to
shunning others. -JaiGuruYou
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<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>, <mdixon.6569@...
<mailto:mdixon.6569@...>> wrote :
Doug, I guess the big question is, can TMers keep from telling other
meditators how superior TM is over any other technique. If not, I
would recommend they not attend because it will end up causing more
tension..
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*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Activist Meditators and A day of silent
prayer ..Meditation 's Going Mainstream
*/ Maharishi said that the world today needed the intercession of the
saints who are established in themselves and are therefore, nearer to
the almighty power./*
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<mailto:dhamiltony2k5@...>> wrote :
*Should TM’ers condescend to send in support a group of meditators to
help?*
/The Contemplative Prayer and Reflection Group in Burlington will host
a Day of Silent Prayer from 9:30 a.m. to 1:30 p.m. Saturday at Christ
Episcopal Church, and everyone is welcome. //There’s never a bad day
for prayer./
/People are welcome to drop in or out as they choose./
/Those arriving late are asked to enter quietly./
*The science on people joining in collective meditation*
*would indicate a priority in joining groups to meditate. *
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<mailto:dhamiltony2k5@...>> wrote :
/The secular approach to meditation is opening a lot of doors right
now when it comes to brain health and stress relief,/
Meditation has been around for more than 2,500 years, but it has taken
a secular approach and scientific research — not to mention added
publicity from technology companies like Google and Apple, which
encourage employees to meditate — to reintroduce it into popular
culture. But can meditation, *and its cousin,* “mindfulness,” become
staples of urban life the way that yoga, a rarity until the early
1990s, has become a widespread activity?/
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No Texts, Please, We’re Meditating
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Increasing numbers of harried New Yorkers are gathering to close their
eyes and just breathe.
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The Hidden Price of Mindfulness Inc.
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The Hidden Price of Mindfulness
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As the practice of mindfulness is packaged and peddled, it’s hard not
to wonder if something essential is being lost.
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With so many mindful goods and services for sale, it can be easy to
forget that mindfulness is a quality of being, not a piece of merchandise.
..while purists sometimes wrung their hands about its
commercialization, their lamentations were in vain. Let loose in the
American marketplace, yoga took on a life of its own. Now, she said,
the same thing is happening with mindfulness.
..Though this may result in less signal and more noise, it doesn’t
mean mindfulness can’t still be beneficial. Yoga may have changed over
the years, but plenty of authentic teachers and ashrams can still be
found. The same dynamic will most likely play out with mindfulness,
too. Strange variations on mindfulness will proliferate, while pockets
of traditional teachings endure.
*http://nyti.ms/1XDaPnu*
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