John., there is an older tradition among Jews that said Messiah would appear 
twice. The first time as the suffering servant(Isaiah 53), coming as a lamb to 
take away the sins of the world, would not be recognized and second time to 
come back as the Lion of Judah to reign in all righteousness. Again see the 
story of Joseph. 

      From: "jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, April 1, 2016 10:32 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Did Jesus Christ Say He is the Unified Field?
   
    
Fuxero,
My answer is simply that I was born into this tradition.  At this point, I 
don't see why I should reject it.  Also, Jesus was predicted by the prophets in 
the Old Testament to incarnate as the Messiah.  The Jews assumed that the 
messiah would be a political leader.  But he came instead  to proclaim the 
kingdom of heaven as the spirit within all human beings. This is the reason why 
orthodox Jews would not and cannot accept him as the messiah.  IMO, that's the 
same reason why Judas Iscariot betrayed Jesus.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <yifuxero@...> wrote :

Thx for the excellent discussion, but I believe a point is lacking.  Let's 
assume that Jesus has presented a body of knowledge and techniques pointing to 
the Unified Field (Ground of Being) and It's Realization.  Fine, but here's a 
question I posed to Bishop Spong (a deceased Christian Gnostic).  I asked him 
that given that Buddhism and or what is collectively called "Hinduism" 
(Sanatana Dharma) have countless teachers in unbroken traditions geared toward 
Self Realization (Enlightenment, or whatever terms are used), and there doesn't 
seem to be much of an unbroken Gnostic Tradition in Christianity comprised of 
large numbers of Realized persons that we can point to (apart from luminaries 
such as St. John of the Cross); then......why the Jesus part?Spong's reply: 
simply because devotion to Jesus pleases him. Fine, but I don't see how any 
Jesus Program is superior to what's offered as derived from Buddhism and 
Hinduism.  (notwithstanding the case of the Spiritual Giants in the Quaker 
Tradition.)So why Jesus?

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