--- In [email protected], anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], Rick Archer 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> 
> > 
> > It's a minor annoyance to most of us but one fellow in the UK 
said
> he reads
> > FFL on a public library computer and can no longer get in 
because of its
> > "adult" classification. If this is the result of someone 
complaining to
> > Yahoo, then I'd say they have a serious case of "if you don't 
play
> my way
> > I'm taking my football and going home" syndrome. Multiply that 
tendency
> > 1,000 times and you have a terrorist blowing up innocent people.
> >
> 
> Because there's a total lack of civility seen in other groups, 
because
> there are people who get their rocks off by playing "now I've got 
you,
> so sonofabitch", because there are "Drs" who should keep their
> diagnosis to their own unfortunate clients and not to FFL, there 
are
> people out to get FFL closed down in the belief that freedom of 
speech
> does not include deriding and belittling people over and over and
> over again.  If this is such a spiritual group, why aren't people
> called when they do such things to people?  It's possible that 
someone
> tried to get FFL closed down because of someone posting 
inappropriate
> material then someone complained once again to Yahoo.  Rick knows 
the
> whole story, only he's keeping it quiet.  Quiet is something Rick
> should not be. He's the group owner and moderator.  Quiet makes him
> accomplice.  Posting rules doesn't cut it.  Cutting someone down 
when
> they go on the attack is what needs to be done.
> 
> Unless, until FFL polices itself, there will be people trying
> everything they can to get FFL closed down, including interviewing
> with and being hired by Yahoo so they can then have the power to 
pull
> the plug on not only FFL but all the members with Yahoo email
> addresses so the group can't reform.
> 
> Characterize it (character, what an interesting word) as a "play 
by my
> rules or I take my ball home" if you wish.  Read the posts and 
tell me
> if there has been sufficient civility to warrant FFL continuing
> another second.  
> 
> Play by the rules of civility or the group will be closed down, if
> bribes, calling in favors from friends in infamous families,  and
> endless number of complaints against Yahoo don't close don't this
> group, nothing will.  Play by the rules of civility and people 
won't
> feel they've entered a minefield where whatever they post will be
> pounced upon again and again and again.  And won't feel the need to
> stiffle "free" speech.  Or spend their free time networking to find
> just the right person to get the plug pulled on FFL.
> 
> Terrorists?  Disappointed you can't access FFL from a public 
library?
> Blame the major flippant posters of FFL for that.  If you go to the
> site and suddenly it's no longer there, blame said posters for 
that as
> well.  And blame yourself for not saying "cut that out" in 
response to
> the uncivil posts.  
> 
> BTW, the posts of Rudra Joe were enough to get this group an Adult
> rating or deletion years ago.  It just took a while for Yahoo to 
catch
> on. 
> 
> Get it?
>
Oh darn...it got posted. I was ranting a bit folks, again, and 
didn't mean to hit the send key. I really must stop being so sneaky 
and making vague threats to you all. My buttons got pushed, 
especially by Rudra Joe, way back when. And Dr. Pete- who I now 
acknowledge really nailed it when he addressed my posting several 
back.

And that stuff I just said about 'if bribes, calling in favors from 
friends in infamous families, and endless number of complaints 
against Yahoo don't close don't this group, nothing will.  Play by 
the rules of civility...etc '. I really overstepped my bounds, and 
realize that empty threats don't amount to much, especially 
anaonymously...

So anyway, keep up the free exchange of ideas, and I will try my 
best to restrain myself in the future...I for one really hope we are 
able to get this site back to a non-Adult Category again. Cheers.






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