Maybe people are jumping to conclusions. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony...@yahoo.com> wrote :
We’ll know more about this shortly from the top down. Maharaja will be in Fairfield speaking to the meditating community on Monday. So the lot evidently is about achieving proper vastu and no movement money was used. That does not mean that some Movement community courtier might not have furnish some money being helpful buying a little access, influence or favor of the Maharaja. We are not in Kansas? Someone else who seems to know the Naders says that they do not have that kind of money, that they are being helped. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelfleba...@yahoo.com> wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <authfriend@...> wrote : Salyavin wrote: Full details provided if you like but it's all in the archives here. Ask him to provide the "full details." Again, if he doesn't, I will. I think Doug should also tell us the source of the email he quotes (without mentioning names). I also posted a link to some wikilinks financial statements from 2004-05 but they haven't shown up yet. Here is more: https://wikileaks.org/wiki/Transcendental_Meditation_Maharishi_developer_confidentialy_agreements,_legal_and_Sthapatya_Veda_documents,_2005 https://wikileaks.org/wiki/Transcendental_Meditation_Maharishi_developer_confidentialy_agreements,_legal_and_Sthapatya_Veda_documents,_2005 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote : FW, e-mail: "..officially, assured that no Movement funds, of any kind, from any source, were involved in this purchase. Rajaraam has had a family home there for years, and he’s relocating that home in order to be in proper vastu." Does that placate you? It doesn't me, full financial disclosure is the order of the day I'm afraid, I'm sick of watching my mates get ripped off for stupid prayers when it's highly unlikely they even do them. You might say that as they don't work it doesn't matter that they don't do them but it's hardly the point. I've spent decades watching the slick blackmailing of donations from the faithful just to see the promised buildings/courses whatever not happen. If people knew what was going on there would have to be some accountability. Just the other day I got a plea to double my monthly donations to the world peace programme (I don't actually make one but I know a lot who do) and all the while the King is larging it in Florida with his kids not even in a TM school! Doesn't he believe this stuff either? I smell major scam. And I smell it because I've been on the receiving end of it via the "vedaland" debacle, I know how good they are at this. Full details provided if you like but it's all in the archives here. Oh dear, well instead of lamenting your friends' gullibility and pulling your hair out, why not make it your mission to do some detective work and find out for sure where Dr Nader is getting his money from? I'm sure you could hire some investigative tax detective if you can't figure out how to do it yourself. Maybe you should write him a letter and ask him personally how he has managed to become a millionaire? For me, I hardly think having a few million dollars as a highly-trained professional is unusual but every man to his own belief. Perhaps if you ask nicely, Tony will even perform a yagya or two just to show his good faith. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote : fw, e-mail: "As MUM struggles and as the movement struggles, the question will be - how can Maharaj continue to pour money in his personal home, while his "MUM family" struggles on in poverty? He is certainly likeable enough but surely, news like this will shake people up enough to ask the real questions?" -) Did you hear the news that Maharaj just invested in a half-acre lot in Palm Beach right down the road from his current estate https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0ahUKEwj_j8uf9L3MAhWjkIMKHQteDecQFggdMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.palmbeachdailynews.com%2Fnews%2Fbusiness%2Freal-estate%2Fpalm-beacher-pays-43m-for-lot-a-half-mile-from-hom%2FnqDbj%2F&usg=AFQjCNEhCAgVJdHxhLOlCy1uzNNTr6C6tw&sig2=u19zPT0QCJSPvWlrt_rIHA? awoelflebater@yahoo,com> wrote: Actually, that was my post below. I don't think that sounds like Rick, do you? But, for sure financial reports on all kinds of ways in which people within the Movement make their money and how donated money is spent should be mandatory and perhaps it is. Transparency is a good thing - and not just within the context of the invisibility sutra. I don't have the time or the interest to start to look into financial reports the Movement may or may not publish but there seem to be some who are very interested in it and so I will leave it up to them to dig away. All I ever did was pay for my education at MIU and a mantra back in 1970 (all of my allowance at the time which was one pound sterling at the time which, I recall, was the equivalent of $1.40 US). Other than that I have neither donated time nor money to any other aspect of Maharishi's/the Movement's real estate plans, palaces, honey or yagyas. Consequently, I am not compelled to worry about whether Tony Nader's lavish lifestyle has been financed by those who thought they were paying for a healing effect brought on by those yodeling a yagya or two or whether he has inherited, earned or won the money via lottery. But, by all means, dig up those financials - if they don't exist surely laws in the US with regard to corporations like the TM Movement require such a thing. Anyone know? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote : Rick makes a good point about this below. Different than Tony Nader’s larger French Lebanese family portfolio or some of the other altruistic TM big-wigs this comes as another good reason for the TM movement to post its financials on operations in detail on its webpages. Not just pie-charts but standard financial statements in detail readily available to read. If TM and all its shells is non-profit and charitable prove that it is well run by its trustees right now. Once again TM's integrity is an open question. -JaiGuruYou ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <rick@...> wrote : http://m.palmbeachdailynews.com/news/business/real-estate/palm-beacher-pays-43m-for-lot-a-half-mile-from-hom/nqDbj/ http://m.palmbeachdailynews.com/news/business/real-estate/palm-beacher-pays-43m-for-lot-a-half-mile-from-hom/nqDbj/ I just read this. Isn't Tony Nader one of the Rajas? Or is he just a scientist/doctor? Not having been a follower of what goes on in the TM Movement since 1985 I presume this is news - the fact that he has some bucks? If you're a Raja don't you have had to have donated a wheelbarrow full of money or something? If that is the case, the amount is $1m (?) then it comes as no surprise that someone has a lot more than that in their bank account. Only an idiot would donate $1m and not have at least $10m in the bank, minimum. salyavin808 writes: This is the TMO doing what it does best. Soliciting donations for it's "world plan for world peace, bringing enlightenment and prosperity to all nations" and then spending it all on real estate. They have big plans you see, the idea has always a world wide network of palaces and embassies for the "rajas", but no one would pay for that directly so they get you with the old "pundit program" scam, it still seems to work, get a maniac like John Hagelin to make it all sound scientific with a video about string theory, and everyone will think it's valid in some sort of demonstrable way, Before you know it the millions are rolling in from the hopeful flock who have been brainwashed for decades with crap about vedas and physics and now vedas and physiology. I do remember them saying that they'd give refunds in future if the "peace creating" pundit groups didn't happen. Well they didn't happen, not even slightly. This recent layout of funds on big houses for the bigwigs gives the lie to that. It should be obvious that not even they believe all that "coherence creating" bullshit, the question is: What are TMers going to do about it? I'm sure you all received the letter I did recently, about doubling your monthly donation for the yagya programme? Bet you didn't think it was going on flying lessons for the King, expensive jeweller for his wife, or expensive - and non TM - schools for their kids. Keep the money rolling in, Heaven on Earth awaits. Just not for you.... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote : Tonight's Phone Call with Maharaja Rajaraam Enjoy an Evening with Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam Extra seating will be available in Festival Hall We are looking forward to the phone call from Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam during Lesson Two of the Ramayan in Human Physiology Course this evening. Everyone is invited. This event is free, and you can come even if you missed Lesson One. It starts at 7:45in Dalby Hall. We expect lots of people, so please come early. Extra room is provided in Festival Hall. The first two lessons of the Ramayan in Human Physiology are free and open to the community. Everyone is invited. The prerequisite for the course is instruction in the TM Technique and completion of STC108 or equivalent; or completion of the TM-Sidhis Course and a valid dome badge. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <olliesedwuz@...> wrote : Brilliant. Yes, two sides of the same coin, yet not letting go of the coin, which rusted through a long time ago. A dodge and distraction from life's procession. Both the followers and anti-followers create meaning around an object which cannot be perfected nor destroyed, perpetually. A spinning mirror to look into, transfixed, instead of simply dealing with the nature of life and our intimate relationship with it. The mind as the naked emperor, parading in front of its fantasies. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Yeah, he be the MAHARAJA! I would guess his family has money, especially if he's a doctor and hung out with Maharishi a lot. I doubt he has had to spend much time in an emergency room or maintain a practice fixing up people to pay off student loans. It is very apparent that the guy has money, and it makes sense to me. Why wouldn't a highly educated medical man have made a decent amount of money and has anyone (imagine!) considered that perhaps his wife has a good job? Or maybe there is family money as well. As for some of these other people who became rajas and ranis, I've heard at least one and maybe more had to virtually beg for assistance to pay the million dollar fee. The TM movement is and always been full of idiots. I have my doubts as to whether many could have made it in the real world. I know for a fact they couldn't and didn't. There are so many airy fairy neurotics who crowd into the lineup to see their current favorite guru or who run, feverishly, to jump on some bandwagon that sounds like the next greatest thing. There are many "misfits" and just plain strange human beings on this Earth and we have a small proportion right here on FFL (not to mention over at number 2) who fell into that category and who still appear (as of my last viewing of them before the Great Divide) just as obsessed as ever with the Movement and what it's up to or how they can work out their unresolved feelings about having been screwed by MMY and those who were his "henchmen". You really have to wonder what it would take for many of them to simply move on and make an effort to unencumber themselves from it all. Personally, I sense a kind of addiction - as twisted as it actually is. The irony of it all is many of these obsessors think of themselves as unattached just because they have a negative opinion. It doesn't matter whether one's opinion is negative or positive; as long as you keep obsessing and showing interest you're still very much involved. From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2016 10:38 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tony Nader's new lot ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <rick@...> wrote : http://m.palmbeachdailynews.com/news/business/real-estate/palm-beacher-pays-43m-for-lot-a-half-mile-from-hom/nqDbj/ http://m.palmbeachdailynews.com/news/business/real-estate/palm-beacher-pays-43m-for-lot-a-half-mile-from-hom/nqDbj/ I just read this. Isn't Tony Nader one of the Rajas? Or is he just a scientist/doctor? Not having been a follower of what goes on in the TM Movement since 1985 I presume this is news - the fact that he has some bucks? If you're a Raja don't you have had to have donated a wheelbarrow full of money or something? If that is the case, the amount is $1m (?) then it comes as no surprise that someone has a lot more than that in their bank account. Only an idiot would donate $1m and not have at least $10m in the bank, minimum.