--- In [email protected], "qntmpkt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> ---But there's no rule written in stone that Enlightenened people may
> not talk about anything.  HWL Poonja talked about it quite a bit,
> including his experiences with Ramana Maharshi. He also has some
> interesting comments on Maharishi.  His excellent bio can be read in
> the form of 3 volumes by David Godman.

I for one quite enjoy speaking about liberation or enlightenment, for 
two reasons: One, this is the only place I know of where it can be 
done with at least a few folks 'getting it', dear kindred spirit, and 
not getting bogged down in endless spirals of refutation, 

And two, it is a healthy thing to do in speaking about it as if it is 
just another experience. Because it is...just...another...experience. 
Demystifying enlightenment or liberation is a good thing to do. There 
has been too much written and spoken about the experience of 
liberation to have the effect of raising it on a pedestal for all 
seekers, so that even those who have not had such an experience of 
liberation are quite sure how it should be spoken of, or not spoken of.

I am not singling anyone out. I am saying that anyone should be free 
to speak about the experience of liberation, Brahman, enlightenment, 
and the United experience of that, without attaching all the past 
bullshit to it. All the fables, fantasies, mood-making, anti mood-
making, rationalization, skepticism, whatever. No Big Deal here folks. 
Just Enlightenment. Period. 

The resistance I see on this board sometimes to those plainly speaking 
about enlightenment reminds me of a funny expression I came up with 
while working for the TMO about 25 years ago, that I thought captured 
the mindset of those seekers perfectly: "Unbounded awareness is great, 
but enough's enough..." *lol* still cracks me up.

The arguing against it borders on the absurd, as if I declare that I 
am 51, and someone strenuously objects and says, 'no you aren't', 
or 'you think you are, but we are free to see you as 213 years old', 
or someone else says, 'you can't be that old, because if you were, you 
would be like this and that, instead of that and this'. Silly ego 
driven bullshit. As they say, 'Denial - Its not just a river in 
Egypt...'

There is no magic here folks. Enlightened people are just like anyone 
else, only more so. *lol*. We all get enlightened eventually anyway. 
No big deal. Say a prayer. Go for it. 

 





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