--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- authfriend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter
> > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > MMY's personality is very much a product of his
> > > > time
> > > > > and culture. It has nothing to do with anything
> > > > > "cosmic". Blazing Brahman expresses itself through
> > > > an
> > > > > aging, slightly senile, lower-caste, 89 year old
> > > > Hindu
> > > > > man who has run a spiritual movement with an iron
> > > > fist
> > > > > for the past 50 years.
> > > > 
> > > > Boy, I think this is an important point.
> > > > 
> > > > Peter, would it also be correct to phrase it
> > > > slightly differently and say, This is *how*
> > > > Blazing Brahman is expressing itself through
> > > > this particular aging, slightly senile,
> > > > lower-caste, 89-year-old Hindu man who has
> > > > run a spiritual movement with an iron fist
> > > > for the past 50 years?
> > > 
> > > Yes, better stated your way.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > I mean, obviously one has to think MMY has
> > > > *realized* Blazing Brahman in order to make
> > > > either of these two statements.
> > > > 
> > > > But people tend to look at the *expression*,
> > > > find it to be much less than what they think
> > > > of as "perfection" in a relative sense, and
> > > > on that basis assume MMY has *not* realized
> > > > Brahman.
> > > 
> > > Agreed. If you're looking for relative perfection in a
> > > realized master, good luck! For example in a
> > > residential Art of Living course I took about a year
> > > ago with SSRS in residence, I was bothered by his
> > > casual manner in talking about funny stories from his
> > > ashram and people throwing themselves at his feet. He
> > > wasn't making fun of them or anything but was talking
> > > about the difficulty in walking around and how much
> > > time it took to go from one end of his ashram to
> > > another. Very funny, very cute story. But I was amazed
> > > at part of my own reaction. I wanted him to be more
> > > serious and aloof and not have the reaction he did.
> > > Just some silly relative ideal of what a guru should
> > > be. My attachment, my problem, not his.
> > > 
> > Yes. Funny what a process that is- engaging with a guru, and 
coming 
> > to terms with who he or she is, vs who we want them to be.
> > 
> > *Paradoxically* I never had the slightest inclination to be in 
> > Maharishi's physical presence. 
> > 
> > and *paradoxically* the only guru who lived up to my 
expectations 
> > when I met him face to face was Brahmananda Saraswati aka Guru 
Dev 
> > (who was the only one I ever met face-to-face...). The 
embodiment 
> of 
> > gentleness, love, friendliness, compassion and an absolute 
pillar 
> of 
> > resolve, tenacity, steadfastness, and no compromise.
> > 
> 
> Hey Paul, I mean Saul.
>
Does that mean something? Is this a Christian reference or 
something? 





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