--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], braaahmaan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > > 
> > > Alternatively, posters could feel free to say whatever
> > > they want and encourage the skeptics to go suck eggs.  
> > 
> > Thats true. Maybe we could simplify the folder and just make it the
> > "Egg Head" list. Peopelwho make wild claims without any attempt to
> > back it up. Then again, simply stating, "Heres my opinion .. though I
> > know there is not much support for it. Maybe someday there will be.
> > Maybe not. Regardless, thats how I come out on it."
> 
> You've caught me in a brutally honest mood. 
> I'm of the opinion that those who are afraid
> to believe anything until "there is support
> for it" are to be pitied, and don't deserve
> my valuable time.  :-)

"My valable time" is clearly YOUR impression, not a unversal fact of
truth. :)

> 
> The enlightenment process IS subjective, and
> it will always be. If you haven't yet encoun-
> tered some experience that your teacher or
> teachers hadn't previously described to you
> and "prepared you for," IMO you just haven't
> been moving very fast spiritually. When you
> DO encounter such an experience, what are you
> going to trust, the experience itself or some-
> one else's "support" for it?

All good points, but nothing to do with my posts. 

My point has been simply, that when someone makes an assertion of fact
"the sky is red" they should provide some substance to back it up if
asked. 

If on the other hand they say "My opinion is the sky is red, but hey
... I could be wrong" - no substantiation needed.

If someone says "My impression is that the sky is red" - we sign him
to a five year movie, record and art gallery deal.

And if the person says "You a hostile asshole for asking me for
substantiation, end of Discussion! Period!", we know Dr. Pete must
have arrived. :)











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