Perhaps one day, (and you ARE running out of time) you may realize that even though you have an inability to hold opposite concepts in your head at the same time, this does not necessarily apply to others.
There may be some mental stretching exercises you can do, but best find out about any possible drawbacks depending on age. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <authfriend@...> wrote : He STILL doesn't get it. Really hard to believe. It's as if he thinks there's no election, just debates. And whichever team wins the most debates gets to be president and vice-president. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <steve.sundur@...> wrote : Sal, what I am saying, is bottom line, he lost the debate. And my observation, from the snippets I saw, and commentary I heard, was that he came off as a kind of boor, where as Pence came off as more polished. Now, please listen carefully. I am not condoning the lies he told. All I am saying is that whatever strategy he adopted, worked, and whatever strategy Kaine adopted did not work as well. And now we learn from Judy and others, that the clever, clever clever strategy employed by Kaine, i.e. Clinton campaign was actually not to win the debate, but to coax statements out of Pence that could be used later. I am saying it backfired, at least as far as the actual debate was concerned, but you are saying it did not. I guess we have a difference of opinion about the outcome. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <salsunshineiniowa@...> wrote : Steve, I honestly don’t even know where to begin with this, and others have already answered, and far better than I can as of right now. I’ll just say…going after Kaine for his vociferousness (and calling it “scripted”) while letting Pence off the hook for his obviously practiced and pervasive lying (You don’t think he had an agenda? Like the nomination in 4 years maybe?) and denying things that millions have heard and that’s easily found on video…if that isn’t deeply troubling to you (and hugely insulting as well, it’s all but calling their supporters too stupid to remember what most of them heard) then we must inhabit different universes. even if a person is lying, well, that may not actually go against them Wow. Good luck with this one. Sal On Oct 6, 2016, at 7:04 AM, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> wrote: I did not watch the debate. I watched only a small "hi-light" reel afterwards. But the impression I got was the the Clinton campaign instructed Kaine to "go after Trump. rip him to shreds" which he attempted to do, but didn't come off particularly well doing so. I felt, that if they had just let Kaine "be himself", things would have turned out better. We all know the debates run on emotion and appearances, so that even if a person is lying, well, that may not actually go against them, in the debate at least, and maybe not even after. But, maybe this idea of "being yourself" is just too naive an idea. On the other hand, it often is what works in situations rather than going with "formula" Any thought? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <salsunshineiniowa@...> wrote : Remember the nickname they gave Bush, the Smirking Chmip? Pence could easily be the Smirking Sociopath, he lies with such effortlessness and oiliness. Even against video evidence, it's like he's some alternate universe or something. Sal On Oct 5, 2016, at 9:55 AM, olliesedwuz@... mailto:olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife] <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> wrote: There is a delusional element among the religious right, who fervently believe that Trump is our next MESSIAH, the Great White Hope who will restore righteousness among the wicked. Pence is clearly one of them. "Smirky" Pence, the know-it-all, self-righteous, bible-thumping hypocrite. I enjoyed Kaine, who comes across as sane, capable and tough. The 'debate' was farcical though, with Smirky constantly trotting out lies, and Kaine refuting them - So nothing new from that angle. Rote Republican desperation, and the usual attempt by the only adult in the contest to stay in the domain of reality. Yeah, the Trump Toilet/Pence Paper ticket is one to avoid at all costs. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <authfriend@...> wrote : For those uncertain as to how my last four posts relate to FFL's concerns as a spiritual group: The Trump/Pence ticket is a blatant example of spiritual degradation--lying, cheating, hypocrisy, and sheer recklessness with the welfare of humankind. Anybody who is at all spiritually aware should oppose these candidates with every fiber of their being. Trust me, every fibre of my being is resonating with contempt and an understanding for how hideous the Trump/Pence ticket is. Between the mono-syllabic undertaker and his bloated and corrupt running mate it is a frightening and sickening to behold. My absentee ballot is sitting to the right of me on my desk ready to be mailed and, believe me, it is for Hillary/Kaine - my only regret is my one vote can't be counted as one million.
