Calling people *backward* is judgemental. They may be very well be going 
through what their dharma expects of them, what they need at that very moment 
in their evolution.
Where they end up could put all of us to shame.

      From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 7:52 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] TM mantras revisited
   
     As you know TM would not be my choice to use in schools because it IS too 
expensive and somewhat limited.  My first experience with any kind of 
meditation was in the 5th grade when some of the intermediate band members were 
added to the advanced or high school band.  The teacher took us through what we 
today would call a "guided meditation" of imagining a handkerchief slowly 
falling to the ground. This was an attempt to get the kids to quiet down enough 
to concentrate on playing the music.
 
 The problem is that Sanskrit mantras do tend to work very well even though 
they really are just sounds attributed to "Hindu gods" which in reality are 
analogs for forces of nature. 
 
 As for "missing the boat" I think a lot of people think that about the 
backward.  We should encourage them to move forward.  There are just some 
ideologies that don't fit well into this era.  A lot of fundamentalism is 
interpreting too literally a teaching that was not supposed to be taken so.
 
 On 11/27/2016 05:30 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
  
     Equal protection under the law, I would assume. If  public schools are 
going to protect non- Christians from being *harmed* by being in the presence 
of organized prayer.... what's good for the goose is good for the gander. BTW, 
it won't just be *fundamentalists* that oppose it. Nearly every other sect of 
main stream Christianity would also.
 I'm not exactly sure that you are qualified to say *who has or hasn't* missed 
the boat. Our karma determines our dharma. Is yoga a *blessing* to get ahead or 
is it a blessing to catch-up? Each person has it's mission in life. The camp 
you find yourself in, is probably the one  you need the most.
        From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 7:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] TM mantras revisited
  
          Why should we care what fundamentalists think?  There are such kinds 
in every religion and they missed the boat a long time ago. They are a minority 
and  should never be treated like they are a majority.  It's not like we keep 
them from learning anything as it's up to them to ask to learn.
 
 On 11/27/2016 04:39 PM, yifux...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
  
    Thx again Doug for posting the Smithsonian article on the Quietist schools  
supported by Lynch, under the direction of an apparent independent academic 
party (the independence part is something new and unexpected....since it  lends 
credibility to the science). ....Unfortunately, the venture may not go over 
well as soon as the Fundamentalist Christians learn  of it.  Put yourself in 
their shoes.  First step  Google  TM Mantras, or "Are TM Mantras Names of the 
Gods".  Naturally, they will select the very first entry on top, and use that 
to  attempt to discredit the Quietist schools. ...Next, they will gather a 
group of like-minded Folk to picket the schools and put  pressure on the local 
politicians to put a lid on the venture, claiming the separation of  Church and 
State (since their conclusion will be that the TM mantras are the Names of  the 
Hindu Gods, according to the very first google entry that comes up.). Any TM 
practitioner knows that when using the mantras, they aren't praying to the 
actual  "Gods"; but the reality of what actually happens is experientially 
obscure and beyond the superficial understanding of the Fundamentalists.  A 
media frenzy will ensue, since the media feeds on superficiality. 
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