--- In [email protected], "bostonbob53" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Oh great Tom, How wonderful thou art! We all worship your greatness,
> your spiritual purity, your insight into the fine line between
> sarcasm, irony, and assholiness! Verily, your mind is an instrument
> of surgical contusion...sorry I meant confusion...errr...precision
> (yeah, that's the ticket)!
While I love the Jon Lovitz reference, I am wondering if, what I term
the "Sutphen Syndrome", is a disease on the spread.
(The "Sutphen Syndrome" is lambasting a poster, in the current time
frame, for comments made long ago. Its symtematic of i) one deeply
tied and captured to the past (by kleshas ?), ii) obsessed with past
perceived insults (real or otherwise) (which is particularly ironic
and bizzare for a "yogi" who claims he has no individual ego - it has
been destroyed in his ascent to enlightenment. All well and good, but
it does raise the prickly qustion: who is being insulted?) and iii)
one who denies the potential for human growth (odd for a therapist) as
reflected in casting and locking the image of a person in past images
rather that looking to their current behavior and observing if there
had been growth - or at least change -- then reacting to that.)
Unfortunately Bob, I see the "Sutphen Syndrome" growing in you. The
good news, its not termianl. someself-inquiry could cure you quickly.
> With that great YBC inspired mental acuity, perhaps you might lower
> yourself to enlighten us all on how you now repudiate the following
> utterances of your unenlightened past, if indeed you were
> unenlightened then.
Granted Tom has uttered some real zingers in the past. And he was
lambasted for such quite extensively at the time. Its odd to keep
hammering away at him at his acknowledged "imperfectsion" in the
present, when non of his curent behavior reflects his past "excesses".
And, I have to admit, its pretty rare for ANYONE on this list to
actually acknowledge their deficiencies - and viow to try every means
possible to improve the deficiencies. All props to Tom fordoingthat,
in my book. That he i) may have been a bit "deficient" in expected
humanity values in the past, and ii) may not yet be "perfected" (who
is, other than Tom, Peter, and Jim) -- even though his current
behavior appears to be pretty giving and sahring.
While I am not supporting Tom's past utterances, (and it IS the PAST
-- and when will old grievances be healed?), I offer up some
alternative POSSIBLE interpretations of Tom's words. I am not saying
these interpretations of Tom's words are true, I am saying that at
face value, they warrant as much consideration as the knee-jerk
politically correct induced-reaction implied in the editing of these
quotes.)
> In the words of Tom The Great:
> "Don't bother calling me a racist. I proclaim that I am one. Now
what are you going to do about it? Call me on it? I am proud to
proclaim > that I am one. Do you think calling me one discredits
anything else I write in this snake pit? It certainly doesn't shame
me to call me > what I freely admit to being. Proudly admit to being."
> --Message 71727
"Racist" can mean many things to many people. It can mean that one
believes its best, not mandatory, if races marry within their race to
maintain the wonderful uniquenes and qualities of the race. This view
has no sense of superiority -- only maintaining diversity. I know
chinese, black, jewish, arab, hispanic, scandanavian and french
families who maintain this view. Not all may agree with it, but it is
not demonic. it certainly is consistent with MMY's view -- though his
actual views are more extreme ("reactionary" in current parlance).
> "I am very sorry for the suffering and loss the people of NOLA
> suffered,
Seems pretty compssionate
> even though my politics are straight out of the Aryan
> Nation."
> --Message 71366
Covered above. Which dictums of the Arayan nation is tom referring to?
I heard that at current rates of intermarriage, natural blondes will
be extinct in 60 years. I find that sad. Perhaps because of being an
extreme blond as a youth. And perhaps while visiting Norway, my blond
genes thrilled and hummed at high octaves like never before in seeing
blonde Norwegian woman apparently from pure Norwegian families for
centuries back. Is that racist? I hope not. There is no sense of
superiority. (Hey I collect blonde jokes and find them hilarious --
and to some degree -- TRUE). But it is a recognition of the value of
maintaining at lest some genetic diversity.
> "But I am heartened by the levies not
> holding and the pumps failing. If only another hurricane would hit
> the New Orleans area while it's devastated, it would be an attempt to
> purge the evil of the New Orleans area which holds the moral
> and spiritual nature of One Nation Under God down. Tue French Quarter
> must be completely destroyed by the forces of Nature if this nation is
> to survive. The surrounding areas must also be destroyed."
> --Message 69695
Not my view. But it seems quite resonant with MMY and the "destroy and
rebuild SV cities view"
>
> "Where I grew up both Christians and Jews also used jew as a
> verb. Whenever someone struck a deal, people asked them how much they
> "jewed" the seller down."
> --Quoted in Message 33832
My experience too. We grew up in crass, racist societies in the 50's
and 60's. Who is the "deviant" here? All of us?
> "I am the very same one who did not find out until last month that
> I had worked for a member of the Gambino family."
> --Quoted in Message 33816
And what is the problem with this? I found I worked for odd folks, at
a later date, too. Is this a huge sin in ommission in not doing an
extensive and costly investigation of potential employers? I don't
know many who could do that. And I don't see the sin.
> "I will feel compassion and love for everybody when I feel it. And
> not before. "
> --Message 33766
And the problem with that is? You are markedly different? Are you a
saint who simply LOVES everyone from birth?
>
> "But the truth is, the money that comes from America and goes into MTO
> coffers comes from Jews. Jew are the primary donators to the US TMO.
> Thew thriving sidha business which made and lost millions were owned
> by jews. Where does bigotry fit into this equaltion? It is bigotry
> to observe that jews view money and its uses and growth in a much
> different way than meditating non-jews?"
> --Message 33720
A distinction of insignificance, even if true. And how would one know
if its true -- without investigation that I am sure has not been done.
So Tom appears focussed on insignificant things here, Not the greatest
crime.
> "Module homes. In Vedic City. VC finally ascends to the ranks of
other towns and cities in Iowa. Soon it will have trailer trash."
> --Message 31082
Well, its a prediction. it might be true -- if "trailer trash" were
replaced with "low income, low education residents". I don't like the
term trailer trash, but I have seen much worse used on FFL.
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