Archer A., Ray Kurzweil looked at this question from a technological perspective and the logarithmic scale rather than the serial scale that most people are prone to think. But he does concede that humans are "probably alone in the universe."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBVUdEQXvmc&t=367s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBVUdEQXvmc&t=367s ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <archonangel@...> wrote : On Sunday, April 22, 2018, 8:22:36 PM GMT, jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Based on the Drake equation, there should be millions of civilizations in the universe that are intelligent to communicate with others in their light sphere. Why don't we notice any of them? It may be possible that they're more advanced in their evolution to understand the meaning of existence and the unity of life everywhere. It is very difficult to draw realistic conclusions from the conjectures of the Drake formula. Some research in the survivability of species indicates a species's lifetime is only about a million years, and the maximum density of a species might last slightly less than half of that. Other estimates are the likelihood of intelligent life on a planet in the 'habitable zone' is about 1 in 60 billion. Adding to that how many species develop communication and send signals into space is another problem difficult to define. The ability to detect signals declines four times with a doubling of the distance from us, and background noise at the same frequencies increasingly interferes with detection as the signal strength declines. So, if we listen in for their signals, they may not have yet evolved as you say, or have gone extinct, or simply never appeared in the first place, and if they did, did they develop communication technology, and finally, are they too far away. It may be possible that they understand their own individual self is part of the Self or Being that comprise the entire existence in the world. On the other hand, there may be species out there, which have not yet evolved to develop science and technology. In the Srimad Bhagavatam, it is written that Narada, a rishi, was able to traverse the universe to teach others of the Vedic knowledge. So, if this is true, then there are other civilizations which have learned the wisdom from Narada and his disciples. If so, they may have learned that the Bliss is everywhere in the universe and may have already understood us in their consciousness even before we met them. The stories in spiritual tomes are often fantastic and metaphorical, and it is often impossible to determine if they actually happened. One of the interesting question would be how would a non-human conscious being with intelligence experience the world and understand the connexions? Even among us humans, we have dreamed up multiple scenarios for the nature of reality that seem largely incompatible with each other from life being horrendous suffering to unlimited bliss. Take the idea of pure consciousness. Described as having no qualities, it could not therefore be bliss. Knowing bliss and being able to differentiate it from suffering would require something more. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBVUdEQXvmc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBVUdEQXvmc
